Russia Economy Thread

[vincent]

I am sure you understand what "civilian economy" ought to be; but I think you just don't want to admit that China's ally in overthrowing American hegemony suffers economically. It's really hard, at times, to admit harsh truths to oneself. We are humans and that's very human-like attitude. By the way, the civilian economy is the economy which contributes to the consumers' and producers' surplus excluding war related final goods and services. By the way, the Soviet economy in 1989 was larger than in 1988 due to the growth in military production on the expanses of the civilian, productive part of the economy. Ohh also, the German GDP grew in 1944 compared to 1943 due to the war spending...

 

[gelgoog]

US military spending during WW2 was 40% of GDP. During the Korean War was like 14% of GDP. During Vietnam it was 9% of GDP.
Russia is spending like 7% of GDP on both military and police.

You talk about Germany in WWI. They were spending 60% of GDP on the military.

Those things are not comparable.

Did you know a B-29 in WW2 had 9000kg payload and a Su-34 can carry 12000kg payload? The Su-34 is also way more accurate at dropping bombs on top of something.

People think Russia will invade the largest Ukrainian cities. That needs armies of several million men. It is much cheaper just to turn Ukraine into rubble by bombing it back to the stone age. And if they insist into a glassed over parking lot.

 

[pmc]

I am not going to debate or advocate anything here; I have got no incentives to spend hours here. I just made an objective and measurable point that Russia's economy is increasingly struggling to sustain this war. For example, Russia has cut its defense spending for 2026 compared to 2025. That should be a kicker for everyone even when major population centers in Donetsk oblast are still under Ukrainian control. Bye the way, civilian economy is not something new; and was used during the first world war to assess German's capacity to sustain the war.

I kept this thread for information only. but let me give you some explanation and it will help others in understanding real Scientific Power and Real Wealth.
See the Flowers in Putin and Netanyahu today Phone Call. Some People are too bright thats why you have to remove them from public eye there extreme talent and the scientific GDP they created. and there is another group whose Wealth and demographic quality outperform any one else on this planet. This is Putin support base and he may or may not want to disclose full picture. thats why statistics are unreliable.

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January 30, 2020, 10:30 AM

The President of the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia (FEOR) recommended that Jews "go into business, but not into power."​

Mosque behind office tower.