Renegade China soldiers 'killed' after Jilin emergency
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solarz
Brigadier
Seems it's being covered up. Most of the Chinese sites reporting on this has taken down the pages already. The 4 soldiers had only one rifle between them, so why were 3 of them killed? Why did they desert in the first place, with so much ammo: 795 rounds, 460 for Type 95, 300 for Type 92, and 35 for Type 77. Sounds like they were preparing for some kind of siege.
Does anyone want to translate the basic outline of this story?
Is this a case of Jewelry robbery??? Sounds like it since two police were killed and one was wounded.
solarz
Brigadier
No it's not. Authorities sent out a warning to banks and jewelry stores, but it doesn't look like the soldiers were seeking to rob banks.
I would'nt read too much about this incident, considering 3 or 4 PLA Renegade Soldiers were involved. Expectedly, unlike Western media, the Chinese sites would remove such stories considered sensitive and could undermine China's security. Well! that is China's policy now, and no amount of diatribes by anyone would change their stance. Perhaps, things could change in 20 years time? I would'nt be around to witness it, if it ever happens.
So the rounds for the different rifles can be fired by the same type of rifle interchangeably? The rifle they took out was a type 95.
I think this is not pre-planned and they took the only rifle that was available. Possibly even after an serious altercation with a superior who was the owner of the rifle.
solarz
Brigadier
Why would you take a gun with you (not too mention so much ammo), if you weren't planning to use it? 4 deserters wouldn't have been a big deal. 4 deserters with an assault rifle and 800 rounds of ammo is a whole other matter!
Rumour is, something happened to one of the soldier's family.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
It's hard to come up with much with so little info, but that text Solarz posted does shed some light.
3 of the 4 deserters were newly inducted this year, with the 4th being a Corporal who joined in 2005. It was reported that the 4 were found en route to Liao Ning, which is where the Corporal is from originally. Seems there is little doubt that he is the ringleader.
The report goes on to say that when discovered by police, the deserters fired first, and in the ensuring firefight, 3 deserters and 2 policemen where killed, with another police officer wounded.
It was also reported that the 4 deserted between half 4 and 6 am, given the time, seems improbable that this was a spire of the moment thing, especially when you consider how much ammo was taken.
My guess is that this was pre-planned, and the 4 have been secretly stashing ammo in preparation, but must have failed to get into the armory to get more guns.
If this was pre-planned, then it only make sense that the men planned to do this when one of them was one sentry duty, which explains the sole Type 95, and how they where able to sneak off base without being noticed.
The police managed to take one of them alive, so the motives of the 4 should be known to the Chinese soon enough, although it is doubtful if they would decide to share that with the rest of us.
If I had to guess, I would think that this was either personal, or financially motivated.
If the Corporal had a tragic death in the family recently and the person responsible escaped prison, that might explain him wanted to go home for vengeance, and the others might have tagged along if they were good budds.
If money was the reason, they could have been planning to do a big bank job, or 4-8 military assault rifles with ammo could fetch a decent price on the black market all by themselves. If they were confident of gaining access to the armory, they might have set their sights on something heavier and more profitable even.
3 of the 4 deserters were newly inducted this year, with the 4th being a Corporal who joined in 2005. It was reported that the 4 were found en route to Liao Ning, which is where the Corporal is from originally. Seems there is little doubt that he is the ringleader.
The report goes on to say that when discovered by police, the deserters fired first, and in the ensuring firefight, 3 deserters and 2 policemen where killed, with another police officer wounded.
It was also reported that the 4 deserted between half 4 and 6 am, given the time, seems improbable that this was a spire of the moment thing, especially when you consider how much ammo was taken.
My guess is that this was pre-planned, and the 4 have been secretly stashing ammo in preparation, but must have failed to get into the armory to get more guns.
If this was pre-planned, then it only make sense that the men planned to do this when one of them was one sentry duty, which explains the sole Type 95, and how they where able to sneak off base without being noticed.
The police managed to take one of them alive, so the motives of the 4 should be known to the Chinese soon enough, although it is doubtful if they would decide to share that with the rest of us.
If I had to guess, I would think that this was either personal, or financially motivated.
If the Corporal had a tragic death in the family recently and the person responsible escaped prison, that might explain him wanted to go home for vengeance, and the others might have tagged along if they were good budds.
If money was the reason, they could have been planning to do a big bank job, or 4-8 military assault rifles with ammo could fetch a decent price on the black market all by themselves. If they were confident of gaining access to the armory, they might have set their sights on something heavier and more profitable even.