Renegade China soldiers 'killed' after Jilin emergency

MwRYum

Major
The munitions they stole is disproportional to the single weapon they made out with, unless they already have acquired those earlier, but still in terms of munitions count that's very small to be even called a starter cache, and not to mention there're 4 of them, one would be without gun. Should they count on supply thru captured weapons they could be mistaken, because when things blown this big they've no chance in hell to ambush a patrolman or two, but facing anything in at least a platoon strength, and most likely with light armor support - even the PAP have cases to call in APC and use 23mm cannon to "get things done"; even without facing light armor, such small cache will burn through quickly in any siege.

And if that's not enough, those 4 AWOL were low ranking soldiers, of which 3 were new recruits, how they could survive in such situation, less to prevail? So unless they're simply utterly stupid, they're simply crazy to even believe they could pull this off. And that begs the question: if they're sane and yet do something like that, why?
 

RedMercury

Junior Member
I'm guessing the revenge theory has the highest probability. They planned and got ammo (easy enough), but couldn't get the guns so they just decided to go with what they had. Sorta sad that the ringleader survived while the 3 accomplices didn't, and that 2 police officers died. I'm guessing the ring leader didn't care about the consequences, just wanted revenge. I wonder how he talked the others into it.
 

Red___Sword

Junior Member
It is too early to make any crediable assumption of their motivation, and they could be simply bold and stupid to start with.

A sidenote, there is no "110" (China's 911) or fax machine (for wanted order circularly) as late as mid-1980's across almost all the China, until a case when 2 armed deserters made a series armed robbery and killed many victims and many police officers were just as if their arms supporter by KIA which the manhunt last more than a year...

Police force at the grass roots 基层 in China was, and still is, under equiped and under trained and under paid. Even not comparing with NYPD of USA, some rules for a Chinese police officer to be able to actually resolve in force to do something, can actually get him killed as long as the bad guy is really resisting arrest.

TRUE police officers bleed everyday in China.
 

CardSharp

New Member
Here's the Guardian spinning it as a human rights issue. Old habits die hard.


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The Hong Kong-based Information Centre for Human Rights and Democracy said the soldiers may have fled because of a recent order for the early discharge of soldiers with poor disciplinary records or who had entered service before turning 18 in violation of regulations. It said at least two of those involved were underage, and may have feared that their early discharges would lead to discrimination in future job searches.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Are they retarded to print that?

What kind of moronic thought process went into that?

The soldiers were afraid of bring discharged early so they deserted? Brilliant strategy for trying to stay in the army. :rolleyes:

They were afraid an early discharge would look bad on their CV so they go make themselves into wanted fugitives to improve their future job prospects? Faultless reasoning. :rolleyes:

I mean, even if I was writing jokes to mock how some in the western media try to turn everything into an excuse to bash China, I would not think to suggest that as it would be too ridiculous. As a joke. And here is the Guardian reporting it as legitimate news. Pathetic.

My guess is the UK unemployment figure will probably go up by 2 after this disgrace. One for the idiot that wrote it, and one for the editor that either didn't do his job and actually check the article, or worse, did not have the basic sense to see how stupid it was.
 
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Engineer

Major
What kind of moronic thought process went into that?

The soldiers were afraid of bring discharged early so they deserted? Brilliant strategy for trying to stay in the army. :rolleyes:

They were afraid an early discharge would look bad on their CV so they go make themselves into wanted fugitives to improve their future job prospects? Faultless reasoning. :rolleyes:

To be fair, it was The Hong Kong-based Information Centre for Human Rights and Democracy that came up with such retarded reasoning.
 
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