Renegade China soldiers 'killed' after Jilin emergency


solarz

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(吉林综合讯)中国人民解放军四名驻吉林省吉林市的士兵昨早持枪逃离军营,警方展开大规模搜捕行动,下午在吉林往辽宁途中发现四人,三名逃兵当场被击毙,另一名士兵被捕。
  据人民网报道,四名士兵林鹏汉、杨帆、李鑫鑫和张新岩,昨晨4时半至6时许携一支95式自动步枪和795发子弹(95式460发、92式300发、77式35发)逃离部队。

  这则发自傍晚的报道引述“有关方面的消息”称,事件目前已得到控制,当事人有死伤,并说详细消息将会由权威部门随后发布。不过本报昨晚稍后再次上人民网时已无法查看这则报道,出现的是“您要查看的页面不存在”字样。

  财新网的报道则说,接到驻军某部有关逃兵的通报后,吉林市警方随即发布紧急通报,并通知下辖各局紧急对此事进行侦查。

  吉林市下属县级市舒兰市警方向当地各银行网店、金银首饰经销单位发布《紧急通报》,要求该市各金融机构及金银首饰经销商加强保卫工作,以预防可能发生的重特大恶性案件。《紧急通报》详细列出四名士兵的姓名、年龄、户籍、军阶、军职和入伍年份,并印有四人的照片。

  四人年龄介于18岁到23岁,其中林鹏汉、杨帆两人均来自辽宁省,张新岩来自黑龙江省,李鑫鑫来自湖南省。年龄最大的杨帆军阶是中士,2005年入伍,其他三人都是去年入伍的列兵。

  吉林市交通管理支队官方微博昨天下午4时30分左右回复网民称:“刚刚接到市局通报,四名嫌疑人在辽宁营口被堵截民警发现,当场击毙三人,活捉一人。”这条微博消息后来也在官方微博消失,不过其他新闻网站转发了相关消息。

  另有微博消息称,四名嫌犯是在吉林往辽宁途中被捕,地点是抚顺市清原县202国道。在抓捕过程中,逃兵先开枪,据称警方也两死一伤。

  舒兰市警方昨天下午4时许向媒体通报,四名士兵及枪支子弹均查获,险情已经解除。警方尚未披露四人逃跑的原因。有传闻称,在追捕四名士兵的过程中,警方与其发生枪战。但该说法尚未得到吉林警方证实。   中国军方尚未证实逃兵事件,也没有针对此事发表任何说法。
Seems it's being covered up. Most of the Chinese sites reporting on this has taken down the pages already. The 4 soldiers had only one rifle between them, so why were 3 of them killed? Why did they desert in the first place, with so much ammo: 795 rounds, 460 for Type 95, 300 for Type 92, and 35 for Type 77. Sounds like they were preparing for some kind of siege.
 

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Seems it's being covered up. Most of the Chinese sites reporting on this has taken down the pages already. The 4 soldiers had only one rifle between them, so why were 3 of them killed? Why did they desert in the first place, with so much ammo: 795 rounds, 460 for Type 95, 300 for Type 92, and 35 for Type 77. Sounds like they were preparing for some kind of siege.
Is this a case of Jewelry robbery??? Sounds like it since two police were killed and one was wounded.
 

solarz

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Is this a case of Jewelry robbery??? Sounds like it since two police were killed and one was wounded.
No it's not. Authorities sent out a warning to banks and jewelry stores, but it doesn't look like the soldiers were seeking to rob banks.
 

advill

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I would'nt read too much about this incident, considering 3 or 4 PLA Renegade Soldiers were involved. Expectedly, unlike Western media, the Chinese sites would remove such stories considered sensitive and could undermine China's security. Well! that is China's policy now, and no amount of diatribes by anyone would change their stance. Perhaps, things could change in 20 years time? I would'nt be around to witness it, if it ever happens.
 

no_name

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Seems it's being covered up. Most of the Chinese sites reporting on this has taken down the pages already. The 4 soldiers had only one rifle between them, so why were 3 of them killed? Why did they desert in the first place, with so much ammo: 795 rounds, 460 for Type 95, 300 for Type 92, and 35 for Type 77. Sounds like they were preparing for some kind of siege.
So the rounds for the different rifles can be fired by the same type of rifle interchangeably? The rifle they took out was a type 95.

I think this is not pre-planned and they took the only rifle that was available. Possibly even after an serious altercation with a superior who was the owner of the rifle.
 

solarz

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So the rounds for the different rifles can be fired by the same type of rifle interchangeably? The rifle they took out was a type 95.

I think this is not pre-planned and they took the only rifle that was available. Possibly even after an serious altercation with a superior who was the owner of the rifle.
Why would you take a gun with you (not too mention so much ammo), if you weren't planning to use it? 4 deserters wouldn't have been a big deal. 4 deserters with an assault rifle and 800 rounds of ammo is a whole other matter!

Rumour is, something happened to one of the soldier's family.
 

plawolf

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It's hard to come up with much with so little info, but that text Solarz posted does shed some light.

3 of the 4 deserters were newly inducted this year, with the 4th being a Corporal who joined in 2005. It was reported that the 4 were found en route to Liao Ning, which is where the Corporal is from originally. Seems there is little doubt that he is the ringleader.

The report goes on to say that when discovered by police, the deserters fired first, and in the ensuring firefight, 3 deserters and 2 policemen where killed, with another police officer wounded.

It was also reported that the 4 deserted between half 4 and 6 am, given the time, seems improbable that this was a spire of the moment thing, especially when you consider how much ammo was taken.

My guess is that this was pre-planned, and the 4 have been secretly stashing ammo in preparation, but must have failed to get into the armory to get more guns.

If this was pre-planned, then it only make sense that the men planned to do this when one of them was one sentry duty, which explains the sole Type 95, and how they where able to sneak off base without being noticed.

The police managed to take one of them alive, so the motives of the 4 should be known to the Chinese soon enough, although it is doubtful if they would decide to share that with the rest of us.

If I had to guess, I would think that this was either personal, or financially motivated.

If the Corporal had a tragic death in the family recently and the person responsible escaped prison, that might explain him wanted to go home for vengeance, and the others might have tagged along if they were good budds.

If money was the reason, they could have been planning to do a big bank job, or 4-8 military assault rifles with ammo could fetch a decent price on the black market all by themselves. If they were confident of gaining access to the armory, they might have set their sights on something heavier and more profitable even.
 

no_name

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But then if they are planning anything they should know that this puts them as wanted criminals for the rest of their lives, with almost no leniency if caught.
 

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