Quantum computing thread

[tphuang]

Aside from autonomous driving, it looks like financial institutions are a major force in the development of new quantum computing solutions. According to this article, 30% of the 39 new members to China's first quantum computing industry alliance

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Looks like quite a few banks and financial institutions are getting involved here with Origin Quantum. Getting bank involved is always great if you are a new tech firm since that brings a lot of funding. Also very important that they continue to work with end users. They have already delivered real quantum computers to customers by this point.

 

[tphuang]

Alright, since I got challenged on twitter and had to research to explain myself, here are somethings to think about.

Origin Quantum came out with Wu Yuan computer back in 2020 at just 6 qubits and created a cloud to access it.

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Three typical quantum applications, namely complex network sequencing, handwritten number recognition and user preference behavior prediction, are developed for prompting users' enthusiasm to leverage OriginQ Cloud. Based on mature quantum algorithms, those applications are developed via OriginQ R&D qSDK QPanda and quantum language QRunes.

It was announced in late September that they were coming out with a 72 qubit quantum computer before the end of the year.

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for these industries - finance, chemical material, biomedical, AI and big data

张辉说，“72比特量子计算机”正式投入应用后，有望赋能金融、化工材料、生物医药、人工智能、大数据等行业

Then the news came out that it released a new computer called wukong, which I assume is the 72 qubit machine.

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They have NDPT-100 machine for the production of quantum chips

Named NDPT-100, the equipment is developed by Origin Quantum Computing Technology Co Ltd and will be used in production of chips for quantum computers, the report said.

At present, the quantum/super computer collaboration is still using their first generation quantum computer Wu Yuan

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窦猛汉表示，“量超协同”计算系统解决方案集成了“本源悟源”系列超导量子计算机，同时包含了量子计算机和经典计算的部分，通过“本源司南”量子计算机操作系统调度资源，让量子计算与经典计算合作来完成计算任务。

but I assume they will move to the more advanced quantum computer once they get the basics figured out. They are working hard at commercialization and utilization by industries. The hardware & software integration is likely slower than release of new quantum computers with more qubits.

 

[horse]

Unbelievable. These guys are just moving so fast

Yeah, unbelievable. They got something that could be working at a high level or decent level. This does not some like some promising project, or vapourware, this sounds like it is really for production. This is real.

The only way other companies would jump in like this, is that they demonstrated something useful, that is my guess, because the quantum is still kind of like classified tech. My point here, is that the economic considerations, are just as important in the tech story. Chinese companies have the cash, and are willing to invest into this classified tech, which turn propels things faster ahead, in terms of deployment and development.

Seems like the quantum-classical fusion (lack of a better term) could be a thing in itself, or a standardized process until the million qbits machine appears, or it really can be a real long term system or new system in computing.

There is like total silence in the West, aka America, regarding any of this quantum-classical fusion, that the Chinese are going full steam ahead with.

They, meaning those computer scientist, always talked about how the quantum computer will need to fix the error correction problem before they can proceed to the next step in building a quantum computer. Okay, I do not believe they managed to fix error correction here for the quantum computer, in this quantum-classical fusion setup, so I wonder, how they get around it? Get the supercomputer to do the error correction for the quantum computer? LOL!? That I am pulling outta mah ass.

They're holding back. You know, when the Chinese launched their quantum satellite, I really thought the Americans would launch theirs in 2 or 3 years later. It is now like 7 years later, and still no American quantum communications satellite. Maybe it is a secret? Or maybe they just don't have one. What do we know about the Chinese quantum communications satellite? It's there, but how does it work, then that is classified. It is amazing. In the old days, we would never get any news of this. Nowadays, they tell us what they are doing, without telling us what they are doing. Or more precisely, how they are doing it. That is still classified.

This quantum-classical fusion, very intriguing.

 

[luminary]

They're holding back. You know, when the Chinese launched their quantum satellite, I really thought the Americans would launch theirs in 2 or 3 years later. It is now like 7 years later, and still no American quantum communications satellite.

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So where is the U.S. in all this? Strangely, even though the first-ever QKD network was created by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency in 2003, our government and especially our National Security Agency have been largely incurious about the possibilities of entanglement-based communication and QKD, while suggesting the Chinese interest in the technology has been a waste of time and money. Recently the Air Force Research Lab

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on using drones for quantum-entangled networks, but those who oversee these efforts don’t see how using a quantum technology that only works when satellite and ground station are in perfect alignment, marks much improvement on current systems.

 

[coolgod]

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So where is the U.S. in all this? Strangely, even though the first-ever QKD network was created by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency in 2003, our government and especially our National Security Agency have been largely incurious about the possibilities of entanglement-based communication and QKD, while suggesting the Chinese interest in the technology has been a waste of time and money. Recently the Air Force Research Lab

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on using drones for quantum-entangled networks, but those who oversee these efforts don’t see how using a quantum technology that only works when satellite and ground station are in perfect alignment, marks much improvement on current systems.

A rumor I heard is that both sides (US and China) suspect each other to be using QKD and QC as the star wars program.

 

[alfreddango]

the star wars program

I’m out of the loop here, what is the Star Wars program?

 

[coolgod]

I’m out of the loop here, what is the Star Wars program?

Strategic Defense Initiative, a key program that affected the R&D of both US and the soviets during the cold war.

 

[Maikeru]

[SNIP]

They're holding back. You know, when the Chinese launched their quantum satellite, I really thought the Americans would launch theirs in 2 or 3 years later. It is now like 7 years later, and still no American quantum communications satellite. Maybe it is a secret? Or maybe they just don't have one. What do we know about the Chinese quantum communications satellite? It's there, but how does it work, then that is classified. It is amazing. In the old days, we would never get any news of this. Nowadays, they tell us what they are doing, without telling us what they are doing. Or more precisely, how they are doing it. That is still classified.

This quantum-classical fusion, very intriguing.

Maybe the US both has and does not have a quantum communications satellite at the same time?

 

[horse]

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So where is the U.S. in all this? Strangely, even though the first-ever QKD network was created by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency in 2003, our government and especially our National Security Agency have been largely incurious about the possibilities of entanglement-based communication and QKD, while suggesting the Chinese interest in the technology has been a waste of time and money. Recently the Air Force Research Lab

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on using drones for quantum-entangled networks, but those who oversee these efforts don’t see how using a quantum technology that only works when satellite and ground station are in perfect alignment, marks much improvement on current systems.

That is what I mean about US silence on their quantum communications program.

They do not want to say anything about it.

Contrast that to how they boast they will make the fastest computer chip in the world in 2 to 3 years time. Current they do not even possess that tech, no one does. Yet, they boast.

When it comes to quantum communications they would not even boast.

So either they are way behind, or do not want anyone to know or to ask what are they doing.

The part in the article, where it says,

Recently the Air Force Research Lab

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on using drones for quantum-entangled networks, but those who oversee these efforts don’t see how using a quantum technology that only works when satellite and ground station are in perfect alignment, marks much improvement on current systems.

That is completely bogus and total bs.

What they are talking about, "when satellite and ground station are in perfect alignment," that refers to line of sight.

Well, duh! 5G requires line of sight, why the commotion over that with Huawei, and not here?

That is just complete disinformation. They do not want anyone to know, or ask questions. Sort of like UFOs on the X-Files. And the cigarette smoking man.

 

[tphuang]

I think people in America are still having issues dealing with commercialization of Quantum computing in China. I posted on my twitter thread and people are arguing with me because they refuse to accept Origin Quantum's own paper that says they are going to be using quantum & supercomputer collaboration for ML and AI.

Origin quantum right now seems to be so far ahead of everyone else in commercializing quantum computing because all the other major players are giant tech companies that are only using it for internal purposes.