QBZ-191 service rifle family

QIUSIYU

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Your reply makes me think you're "a clown with claptrap". :D
In my eyes, your constant attempts to stir up arguments with these meaningless questions make you come off as nothing more than a clown.All answers are in this video. Good luck understanding Chinese—because there’s no English version.
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Shadow_Whomel

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The PAP isn't alone in participating in this stupidity.

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@QIUSIYU, I thought you said gripping the barrel is only done with the bullpups. Any thoughts?
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by78

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In my eyes, your constant attempts to stir up arguments with these meaningless questions make you come off as nothing more than a clown.All answers are in this video. Good luck understanding Chinese—because there’s no English version.
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You had explained previously that "due to the unique design of bullpup rifles, this stance is an authorized and professional technique under specific conditions". I then showed you an
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by its barrel and gas block and asked you why this was done with a rifle that clearly isn't a bullpup. Instead of providing an explanation, you resorted to snark, insults, and clownish claptrap. If you don't have an answer, just admit it.

Furthermore, the video you linked doesn't answer my question at all. The person in the video states that the unconventional grip was done by a small number of people (tall users with longer arms) to cope with the poor ergonomics of bullpups. He then demonstrates that QBZ-191 doesn't have the same ergonomics problem because the handguard is much longer. Therefore, your video only reinforces the validity of my question, which I will ask you again: why do some soldiers grip QBZ-191s by its barrel and gas block when clearly the ergonomic limitations of bullpups no longer apply? Do you have an answer or not?

P.S. I'm quite fluent in both spoken and written Chinese, so you're sadly mistaken if you think you could fool me with a Chinese language video that clearly doesn't answer my question.
 
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Aniah

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You had explained previously that "due to the unique design of bullpup rifles, this stance is an authorized and professional technique under specific conditions". I then showed you an
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by its barrel and gas block and asked you why this was done with a rifle that clearly isn't a bullpup. Instead of providing an explanation, you resorted to snark, insults, and clownish claptrap. If you don't have an answer, just admit it.

Furthermore, the video you linked doesn't answer my question at all. The person in the video states that the unconventional grip was done by a small number of people (tall users with longer arms) to cope with the poor ergonomics of bullpups. He then demonstrates that QBZ-191 doesn't have the same ergonomics problem because the handguard is much longer. Therefore, your video only reinforces the validity of my question, which I will ask you again: why do some soldiers grip QBZ-191s by its barrel and gas block when clearly the ergonomic limitations of bullpups no longer apply? Do you have an answer or not?

P.S. I'm quite fluent in both spoken and written Chinese, so you're sadly mistaken if you think you could fool me with a Chinese language video that clearly doesn't answer my question.
It's a training issue. Military retirees in the comment section also mentioned they did the same thing either because it felt natural or when in high stress. Everyone learned after getting burned the first time, and said more training would help elevate this.

Besides training, the natural grip feel is another reason for a full-length handguard. I hope the higher-ups consider a full upper upgrade in the near future.
 
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pikusharp1

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It's a training issue. Military retirees in the comment section also mentioned they did the same thing either because it felt natural or when in high stress. Everyone learned after getting burned the first time, and said more training would help elevate this.

Besides training, the natural grip feel is another reason for a full-length handguard.
More training or the problem fixes itself after a burn or 2. I dont see the PLA issue everyone a full length handguard, We are going to see 6th gen officially enter service before that is a thing.
 

Aniah

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More training or the problem fixes itself after a burn or 2. I dont see the PLA issue everyone a full length handguard, We are going to see 6th gen officially enter service before that is a thing.
Who knows, as the country gets richer and the budget increases, I can see those in charge be kind enough to give a little more for the little guys. Even just a small increase in the budget in the future would help out substantially. Just my opinion on this.
 

QIUSIYU

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You had explained previously that "due to the unique design of bullpup rifles, this stance is an authorized and professional technique under specific conditions". I then showed you an
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by its barrel and gas block and asked you why this was done with a rifle that clearly isn't a bullpup. Instead of providing an explanation, you resorted to snark, insults, and clownish claptrap. If you don't have an answer, just admit it.

Furthermore, the video you linked doesn't answer my question at all. The person in the video states that the unconventional grip was done by a small number of people (tall users with longer arms) to cope with the poor ergonomics of bullpups. He then demonstrates that QBZ-191 doesn't have the same ergonomics problem because the handguard is much longer. Therefore, your video only reinforces the validity of my question, which I will ask you again: why do some soldiers grip QBZ-191s by its barrel and gas block when clearly the ergonomic limitations of bullpups no longer apply? Do you have an answer or not?

P.S. I'm quite fluent in both spoken and written Chinese, so you're sadly mistaken if you think you could fool me with a Chinese language video that clearly doesn't answer my question.
Some of our team members prefer this grip style because it feels more comfortable to them. Happy now? Even though firing 20 rounds could make the gun hot, we never actually reach that count in practice. This grip method has negligible impact anyway.
 

QIUSIYU

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You had explained previously that "due to the unique design of bullpup rifles, this stance is an authorized and professional technique under specific conditions". I then showed you an
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by its barrel and gas block and asked you why this was done with a rifle that clearly isn't a bullpup. Instead of providing an explanation, you resorted to snark, insults, and clownish claptrap. If you don't have an answer, just admit it.

Furthermore, the video you linked doesn't answer my question at all. The person in the video states that the unconventional grip was done by a small number of people (tall users with longer arms) to cope with the poor ergonomics of bullpups. He then demonstrates that QBZ-191 doesn't have the same ergonomics problem because the handguard is much longer. Therefore, your video only reinforces the validity of my question, which I will ask you again: why do some soldiers grip QBZ-191s by its barrel and gas block when clearly the ergonomic limitations of bullpups no longer apply? Do you have an answer or not?

P.S. I'm quite fluent in both spoken and written Chinese, so you're sadly mistaken if you think you could fool me with a Chinese language video that clearly doesn't answer my question.
你说你中文很好,那么不可能不知道在中文互联网上相关的问题早就有了答案,在外网还问这种问题简直就是哗众取宠
 
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