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by78

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Chinese military personnel are fully aware of how to properly wear body armor, as clearly documented in numerous photographs demonstrating their adherence to correct protocols. However, they have absolutely no obligation to readjust their armor for optimal positioning in non-operational scenarios—such as staged press photos—merely to cater to your so-called 'professional' demands

Glad you have admitted PLAGF/PAP lack professionalism. Now could you explain why PAP soldiers grip their rifles by the barrel and gas block, as shown in my previous post?
 

QIUSIYU

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I used to think these are staged publicity photos and therefore not reflective of actual practices, but now I have come around to the idea that this isn't so cut and dry. The body of evidence is simply too large to be dismissed. For example, I wonder who in the PAP leadership okayed the hot idea of gripping the fore-end by the barrel and gas block?

@QIUSIYU, why do so many PAP soldiers grip their rifles by the barrel and gas block? You're a retired PAP soldier, so you're best positioned to explain this grip technique to us. What do you have to say about this?

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Because this method allows us to control the gun more easily while shooting, when we use this stance we only rapidly fire 3-5 rounds and then switch to handgun shooting. We wouldn’t be foolish enough to keep firing continuously until the barrel gets too hot; most of the time, we adopt this stance just for taking photos rather than for actual shooting.
 

by78

General
Because this method allows us to control the gun more easily while shooting, when we use this stance we only rapidly fire 3-5 rounds and then switch to handgun shooting. We wouldn’t be foolish enough to keep firing continuously until the barrel gets too hot; most of the time, we adopt this stance just for taking photos rather than for actual shooting.

Again, I'm glad you are honest enough to admit to PAP's lack of professionalism.
 

QIUSIYU

Senior Member
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Glad you have admitted PLAGF/PAP lack professionalism. Now could you explain why PAP soldiers grip their rifles by the barrel and gas block, as shown in my previous post?
It’s absurd to equate professionalism with staged photos rather than actual military operations. The PLA’s expertise is demonstrated by countless verified instances of body armor being worn correctly in combat missions—authentic professionalism is forged in the field, not manufactured for press cameras.
 

by78

General
It’s absurd to equate professionalism with staged photos rather than actual military operations. The PLA’s expertise is demonstrated by countless verified instances of body armor being worn correctly in combat missions—authentic professionalism is forged in the field, not manufactured for press cameras.

I'm glad you have admitted to posting staged photos. Please stop doing that. This is a flagship technical thread, not a place for propaganda photos. I would suggest that you use Members' Club Room for sharing unrealistic, misleading, or staged photos.
 

QIUSIYU

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Again, I'm glad you are honest enough to admit to PAP's lack of professionalism.
From your professional perspective, this posture may seem incomprehensible. However, in China, due to the unique design of bullpup rifles, this stance is an authorized and professional technique under specific conditions. In marksmanship, there is no rigid 'textbook posture'—only the most effective one for the situation.
 

QIUSIYU

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I'm glad you have admitted to posting staged photos. Please stop doing that. This is a flagship technical thread, not a place for propaganda photos. I would suggest that you use Members' Club Room for sharing unrealistic, misleading, or staged photos.
This is not your personal forum, and you have no authority to dictate how others should post content according to your preferences.
 

by78

General
This is not your personal forum, and you have no authority to dictate how others should post content according to your preferences.

Nor is this your personal forum. There are long-standing practices and etiquettes that have been formed over 20 years that are considered the norm, the most important of which is that this forum is a "professional" one. It is therefore not a place for sharing staged propaganda photos, which is why I suggested that you use the Members' Club Room for that purpose.
 
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Aniah

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Calm down, you two, before the mods come in. I don't understand why you two still haven't blocked each other already instead of fighting it out. It's been more than 2 years now of you two going back and forth. Neither of you has any point of agreement, so just block each other.

I enjoy both your contents so it would suck for everyone if either of you guys get anymore warning from the mods.
 

ohan_qwe

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It’s part of being a professional soldier and discipline, and discipline is 100% a determining factor in winning battles. I don’t think I need to explain how discipline is important.

As for Afghanistan, this is off topic, but I have to throw in a correction. That war was about COIN, so optics is important. Both the Taliban and US were competing to win the populace’s favor, but the latter didn’t understand a thing about the region’s cultural and intertribal differences.
Lack of trigger discipline don't mean lack of general discipline. It's as much part of being a professional solider as to know how to goose step.

No one had trigger discipline in WW2 and that don't mean the soldiers didn't have general discipline.

Former British Army . Even if the US forces didn't carry the stars and stripes, you could spot them by their strolling in the park march.....!!
 
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