PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

BrotherofSnake

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Re: My trip to the US Navy Reserve Fleet in Bremerton, WA

Why would the Japanese oppose nuclear powered carriers? I thought they were safe.
 

bd popeye

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Re: My trip to the US Navy Reserve Fleet in Bremerton, WA

BroSnake wants to know..""Why would the Japanese oppose nuclear powered carriers? I thought they were safe.""

Nuke powerd CVN are very safe. but it's simple..the US dropped two atomic bombs on Japan to end WW 2. Thus creating a Japanese aversion to nuclear power in any form. You know the JMSDF has no nuke subs?? I think..i'm not sure.. that the Japanese consitution forbids nuclear power in anyform.
 

swimmerXC

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Re: My trip to the US Navy Reserve Fleet in Bremerton, WA

bd popeye said:
BroSnake wants to know..""Why would the Japanese oppose nuclear powered carriers? I thought they were safe.""

Nuke powerd CVN are very safe. but it's simple..the US dropped two atomic bombs on Japan to end WW 2. Thus creating a Japanese aversion to nuclear power in any form. You know the JMSDF has no nuke subs?? I think..i'm not sure.. that the Japanese consitution forbids nuclear power in anyform.

they use nuclear power, to power their country ;)

As of July 2003, the 52 commercial nuclear reactors in operation had a total electric power generation capacity of 45.74 million kilowatts and supplied about one-third of the country's electricity. An additional four reactors were under construction and eight were in a preliminary stage of planning prior to the start of construction. Private electric power companies own and operate all the nuclear reactors. Efforts to build new nuclear power plants have been greatly complicated by the fact that the public's confidence in the safety of nuclear energy has been greatly shaken by a series of nuclear-power-related accidents in Japan since the mid-1990s.

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k1975

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Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?

To be true, I personally dun not think that US will risk to go out for a full scale war with China. The reason is very simple, US has too many interest in China in term of foreign direct investment. Japan is too close to risk a war with China as well. In the last great war, Jap was protected from China due to the fact that Chinese had no bombers or ant surface fleet. More importantly, China does not have nukes.

Today, the scenrio is abit different. Jap despite having a more modern air force and navy, but this does not give it a distinct advantge over China. China has the depth to absorb any first strike attack from Jap / US. But it does not hold true for Jap. I am quite sure that chinese leaders are well aware of the hardliners' speech on using Nukes in conflicts with a global superpower. The purpose is to let US know and have a "mutural" understanding.

This speech also serve as a "gentle" reminder for jap, one of China traditional the good fiend. Despite the fact the Jap is trying to build a missile shield, but it would not be possible for Jap a build a effective shield against a saturated attack of 600 short range missiles (some nuclear tipped). Jap will win a surface navy war but at a cost (depending how good the chinese navy perform, hopefully do not repeat the 1895 show again). A war btw China and jap will only result in a win-lose situation. US & Euro (win), China, Jap, Korea, Taiwan (lost).
 

bd popeye

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Re: My trip to the US Navy Reserve Fleet in Bremerton, WA

xcswimmer thank you for enlightning me on nuclear power in Japan. :D You are always on top of the game! :) It makes me think that the Japanese aversion to nuke ships is just going to be a barganning tool in the future. :confused: Let's wait and see.

Anyways, is the CVN-77 going to replace the JFK or Kittyhawk?

Who knows? The JFK is in limbo right now because eairler this year the USN wanted to retire the JFK. But some congressmen from Florida & Virginia put at least a 1 years stop to that. Here's the story.

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As for the USS Kitty Hawk CV-63 it is scheduled to be retired in 2008. Got to wait and see.
 

Raven

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Conventional CVs

I have been fortunate to have been to NAS Oceana where much of the Atlantic fleet is based. It is only then can one see how much of Naval Flight Operations is done just to prepare the men and women of the US Navy and Marine Corps to launch and land on the carriers. This is different from operations in Harriers which is also demanding but to a lessor extend. USN and USMC aircraft spend a huge amount of extra time practing approaches at practice carrier landing fields. The training is very expensive and very dangerous (also fun to watch and listen too). From what I have seen, the SU-33 and MiG-29K are great naval aircraft. Be curious to see them doing practice landings.


Oh by the way, contrary to what many think in this forum, most Europeans and Americans do not wish to see conflict between the Asian powers or with the Asian powers. With family ties to the Philippines and a sister in law who has been in Japan (and loved it) ANY war would be sad for the region and the world.
 

Raven

New Member
Us Cvsg

The USN tends to send about 6 CVSGs into a problem area. That doesnt include various surface attack groups and also SSNs and SSGNs. I'll say this, the only US Navy surface combat vessel with no TLAMs is the FFG-7 Perry Class, but it is armed with Harpoons,torperdoes and versions of the SM1 and SM2.


SU27 Pilot, aim high and look towards the SU-30. Better jet, new guts in the aircraft and two seats for assorted bagage(WSO,ECMO,extra food, TV, wife, girlfriend,etc) Plus the PLAAF have some really cool grey paint schemes.

My favorite US Aircraft F/A-18D
Favorite former US Aircraft A-6E and F-14D (MISS THESE BIRDS)
Favorite Non-US Aircraft SU-25 and SU-30MKK

Others
FA-2 Sea Harrier
F-3 Tornado ADV
Rafale
F-111
 

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
Re: Anti-Carrier Trump Card

chinese j-11's have the same a2a abilities as an su-30, soon they will be mutirole too. the su-34 is the one with the real space for baggage. a toilet and kitchen!
 

sumdud

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Re: My trip to the US Navy Reserve Fleet in Bremerton, WA

But what did Bush do that was spetacular? Enough to get a shipe named after him so quickly?

I'll take popeye's words, though. Ships should be named after battles, to better allow people to know history. Or cities, since these ships are so big and complex, they truly are floating cities (boomtowns ;) ).
 
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