kwaigonegin
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Modified structurally too or just the internals? the internals is a given but I like to know if the external is similar. Even if the body is a lil different I am still 99% sure it'll be ramped.
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Modified structurally too or just the internals? the internals is a given but I like to know if the external is similar. Even if the body is a lil different I am still 99% sure it'll be ramped.
Intrepid
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They do the same: prepare several modules and add them at quite the same time, if they are out of balance.
Progress is not faster, if you prepare three weeks and put three modules at the same time than lift one module every week. Somewhere in the past somebody wrote that there are four places for modules. And may be, smaller modules can be prepared two together at one of these places.
Expert: Second China-made aircraft carrier may adopt EMALS
BEIJING, June 1 (ChinaMil) -- Recently the official website of America's Popular Science magazine released a report on the latest news about China's first domestically built aircraft carrier titled "CHINA'S NEW CARRIER GETS A SKI RAMP." A photo was also released, saying that "the ship's ski jump soon to be welded to the carrier's front".
In a recent interview with CCTV's Focus Today program, military expert Yin Zhuo said the second China-made aircraft carrier might adopt the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) pending the final decision.
After China confirmed at the end of 2015 for the first time that it was building the first China-made aircraft carrier in Dalian, both domestic and international media have paid growing attention to this carrier.
The Popular Science claimed that "since the beginning of the year, many modules have been assembled, including the below-deck hangar bay, openings for aircraft elevators, and is expected to be launched in 2017."
According to Yin Zhuo, the first China-made aircraft carrier had existing design drawings, so it only went through cabin adjustment and tonnage expansion without many newly developed items, featuring a high level of technical maturity.
China produced deck steel and ship-bottom steel a long time ago, so building material for aircraft carrier is not an issue, which is why it is built much faster than aircraft carrier Liaoning. Communication equipment on that carrier such as radar is very advanced too, Yin added.
American media claimed that China is testing the EMALS. Once the test succeeds, China's aircraft carrier will be a very powerful combat force in the future.
Does that mean the second China-made aircraft carrier may adopt the EMALS? Yin Zhuo said that was possible. "In my opinion, the most advanced the technology, the better. There is no difficulty that we cannot solve about electromagnetic launch. We are as good at that technology as the United States, but whether this technology will be adopted will depend on the final decision."
Yin Zhuo added that if the EMALS is adopted, that means the aircraft carrier will use overall power system that features integrated electric propulsion, the application of electromagnetic gun and electromagnetic rail gun will just be a matter of time, and this technology may even be used to launch satellite.
If breakthroughs can be made in those technologies, Yin continued, they will lead to broad prospects in the application of self-defense and high energy laser weapon on aircraft carrier.
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Does this change our expectations of 002? Maybe, maybe not. It does correspond a little bit to previous bits of info and rumours we've had regarding 002, not only regarding EM catapult, but also regarding what kind of propulsion it will use. It's also important to note that the popular science article that Yin Zhou is reflecting on is a result of the same recent and persistent rumours we've had for a while from the big shrimps.
That said, Yin Zhou's words should not always be taken as gospel, but the fact that he's discussing these possibilities and the fact that an official PLA website is repeating his reflections about the possibility of EMALS+IEPS in this manner is cause for some speculation.
@Skywatcher, how does it feel to have one of your articles directly referenced by the Chinese military
Skywatcher
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Very, very flattered.
kwaigonegin
Colonel
Wasit cats I presumed? or are we talking EMALS on a ramp also? If latter then I find it to be not credible HOWEVER if China pulls this off I would give them 100% kudos!
that would be a technological feat more like a small leap! On the surface it may look relatively similar but stringing a cat on a curve incline presents new and exponentially more difficult challenges in both arithmetic and physics not to mention mechanical.
that would be a technological feat more like a small leap! On the surface it may look relatively similar but stringing a cat on a curve incline presents new and exponentially more difficult challenges in both arithmetic and physics not to mention mechanical.
Expert: Second China-made aircraft carrier may adopt EMALS
BEIJING, June 1 (ChinaMil) -- Recently the official website of America's Popular Science magazine released a report on the latest news about China's first domestically built aircraft carrier titled "CHINA'S NEW CARRIER GETS A SKI RAMP." A photo was also released, saying that "the ship's ski jump soon to be welded to the carrier's front".
In a recent interview with CCTV's Focus Today program, military expert Yin Zhuo said the second China-made aircraft carrier might adopt the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) pending the final decision.
After China confirmed at the end of 2015 for the first time that it was building the first China-made aircraft carrier in Dalian, both domestic and international media have paid growing attention to this carrier.
The Popular Science claimed that "since the beginning of the year, many modules have been assembled, including the below-deck hangar bay, openings for aircraft elevators, and is expected to be launched in 2017."
According to Yin Zhuo, the first China-made aircraft carrier had existing design drawings, so it only went through cabin adjustment and tonnage expansion without many newly developed items, featuring a high level of technical maturity.
China produced deck steel and ship-bottom steel a long time ago, so building material for aircraft carrier is not an issue, which is why it is built much faster than aircraft carrier Liaoning. Communication equipment on that carrier such as radar is very advanced too, Yin added.
American media claimed that China is testing the EMALS. Once the test succeeds, China's aircraft carrier will be a very powerful combat force in the future.
Does that mean the second China-made aircraft carrier may adopt the EMALS? Yin Zhuo said that was possible. "In my opinion, the most advanced the technology, the better. There is no difficulty that we cannot solve about electromagnetic launch. We are as good at that technology as the United States, but whether this technology will be adopted will depend on the final decision."
Yin Zhuo added that if the EMALS is adopted, that means the aircraft carrier will use overall power system that features integrated electric propulsion, the application of electromagnetic gun and electromagnetic rail gun will just be a matter of time, and this technology may even be used to launch satellite.
If breakthroughs can be made in those technologies, Yin continued, they will lead to broad prospects in the application of self-defense and high energy laser weapon on aircraft carrier.
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Does this change our expectations of 002? Maybe, maybe not. It does correspond a little bit to previous bits of info and rumours we've had regarding 002, not only regarding EM catapult, but also regarding what kind of propulsion it will use. It's also important to note that the popular science article that Yin Zhou is reflecting on is a result of the same recent and persistent rumours we've had for a while from the big shrimps.
That said, Yin Zhou's words should not always be taken as gospel, but the fact that he's discussing these possibilities and the fact that an official PLA website is repeating his reflections about the possibility of EMALS+IEPS in this manner is cause for some speculation.
@Skywatcher, how does it feel to have one of your articles directly referenced by the Chinese military
I want to point out that in the interview Yin Zhou was almost "forced" to give his "personal opinion as technical expert" by the news host on the possibility of installing EMALS on the 2nd indigenous aircraft (not the one under construction in Dalian). His answer is of course he'd like to see it happen, since it would also help the development of related technologies such as IEPS or EM rail guns. He did say that (among all the carrier related technologies) the gap is the smallest between China and the US in the area of EMALS.
Given the above, I don't think Yin Zhou's replies gave any hint whether 002 will have EMALS. The only thing that we can take away is that China indeed has made significant progress in EMALS, a positive confirmation.
Yes, I generally agree with that.
I think his stance on 002 having or not having EM catapults is not meant to reflect any knowledge on what kind of decision has or has not been made, but rather on his knowledge of the state of development of the technology and its overall readiness... but I think that is a very important revelation as well.
My take is that China's choice is either ramp without cat or cat without ramp, not a mix of either waist cat plus bow ramp or cat on ramp. So I see a pure cat carrier in the future.
I think IF this is done by any country, it will be done in the way as the Russian intension on their "Storm" class carrier which has ramps both at the bow and waist. There are cats at both positions, however the cats are only installed before the curves.
Installing cat on a curve doesn't add much advantages but add too much complexity that negates any benefit of such design.
Intrepid
Major
The access to the aft machinery room is now covered, so the gear boxes for the inner propeller shafts should be installed.
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