Funny how US intervention didn’t do jack shit against the Russians in Ukraine except delay the inevitable. I know lots of silly people may contest this, but eight years of prep time and the Russians still took most of Donbas and the Lugansk and as of now, the Ukrainians are currently getting their asses kicked in The Kherson offensive though the use of baiting and well killing the hell out of them When they fell into the trap any one with a basic level of respect for Russia could see coming after months of this strategy being used, something that shouldn’t have happened if Boris Johnson like the stupid fat ass that he is didn’t push the leadership into launching an all out offensive when the generals in Ukraine where basically saying that this is an ultra bad idea. If this is the best the west can pull, then in regards to Taiwan and the fact that China has all the advantages of distances, a immense amount of weapons at their disposal, the fact that Russia and North Korea would certainly that a swing against the US if they try to concentrate fully on China and the fact that the Taiwanese are no where near as prepared to die for the USA like the Ukrainians seem to be, well unless the USA wants a third debacle after Afghanistan and now Ukraine, well Biden had been STFU and now poke China if he knew in his pee brain what is good for him and his failing administration who are increasingly become more and more insane
PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency
- Thread starter pugachev_diver
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How the popular media imagines the TW scenario will go down:
Operation Overlord 2.0, thousands of PLA soldiers getting mowed down in waist deep waters against well fortified KMT positions, tanks rolling off LSTs onto beaches, all PLA landing ships are interdicted by USN nuclear attack subs, and PLA not achieving air dominance over the Taiwan Strait.
Suffice to say that how they imagine it will go down will be sufficently different from how it will actually go down.
funny thing is, Operation Overlord 2.0 already occurred, in Hainan, and the KMT got crushed. despite outnumbering PLA, PLA had a casualty advantage 1:5.
The decisive factor is the rocket launched artillery. Couple this with the satellites and drones, it allow the PLA to fight from across the strait. Any large formation of troops, artillery, armor etc. will be taken out before the landing party arrives. Armed drones and choppers will take care of the smaller groupings. There will be little resistance at the landing sites when the landing party arrives.
Broccoli
Senior Member
You assume that none of those armed drones and choppers won't fail in their task.
What if all of those assets are shot down before they managed to inflict enough casualties? What happens then when landing party arrives at heavily defended shore? They either have to land against heavily defended beaches or risk another dangerous trip back to mainland white getting shot at. Russians had similar fantasies about Ukrainians simply giving up but we've seen how thats going.
PLA has higher accuracy satellite guidance than USA GPS has (which is definitely way better than what Russia has), and more than enough rocket artillery to be guided by said system. Any "heavily defended" i.e. has many rebel troops near it location will just become a charnel house for air and artillery, no matter if they are rebel or US troops, since organic artillery support on the same scale will be impossible for US to move into Taiwan, since unlike Russia and LDPR, USA doesn't share a land border with ROC.
Chinese soldiers aren't like Russian soldiers trying to invade a country while their leadership doesn't declare open war. They're fighting for their existence and freedom as a country from American invasion, just like the most fanatic Ukraine soldiers fighting against Russian invasion. Americans are the ones who are under a fantasy, thinking they can borrow the RU playbook and play up Chinese separatism then send troops to support the "independent republic(s)".
If a corrupt dysfunctional oligarchy in Ukraine can fight so fiercely against such an invasion, you'll see what happens when NATO pokes the largest economy in the world with over 10x as large population as Ukraine and an army far more modern and ready to defend the homeland at any cost.
There is another weird argument that is rising. China blockading Taiwan. China would never impose a blockade as a standalone act. It would be for supporting the campaign and primarily for preventing weapon deliveries. A blockade without an actual campaign is just giving Taiwan and the USA to mobilize themselves while starving the Taiwanese.
Step 1: bomb enemy formations
Step 2: perform battle damage assessment
If they're still there, refer back to step 1. If not, go have fun at the beach.
已武促统 - using military means to facilitate reunification; the use of military means is not an end to itself but rather a means to an end.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
This is foolish. Some drones can fail, some can be shot down; that's why they're drones. They're expendable. But a sufficient number of capable drones will get the job done. And if they don't, cruise missile strikes on Taiwan's beach defenses are in order. Actually, they should be in order alongside drones strikes. You're the one living in a fantasy where the beach defense of a smaller and technologically weaker force can stand up to endless failures by various methods of strikes by a superior adversary.