PLA Small arms

KampfAlwin

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If you look at the pistol's surface, it has some rough uneven spots while the lmg's surface is much much smoother. That indicates that the finish is uneven and a bit rough. Polishing a gun makes them even more noticeable.
I'm pretty sure that's just dust particles on the pistol. The light shining on the pistol highlights it especially since the finish is black-coloured, making it more obvious.
 

by78

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I'm pretty sure that's just dust particles on the pistol. The light shining on the pistol highlights it especially since the finish is black-coloured, making it more obvious.
If you look at the pistol's surface, it has some rough uneven spots while the lmg's surface is much much smoother. That indicates that the finish is uneven and a bit rough. Polishing a gun makes them even more noticeable.

I think that's more of a digital artifact from the camera more than anything. The images I posted are from two individuals. One of them likely used a low quality phone camera with digital enhancements applied. If you zoom in, you'll notice there are few smooth lines in his photos; they all have a 'wavy' quality to them, which might be mistaken as tiny imperfections in workmanship.
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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I think that's more of a digital artifact from the camera more than anything. The images I posted are from two individuals. One of them likely used a low quality phone camera with digital enhancements applied. If you zoom in, you'll notice there are few smooth lines in his photos; they all have a 'wavy' quality to them, which might be mistaken as tiny imperfections in workmanship.
Oh I was referring to the pistol one. Even if that pistol picture was done with a bad camera, the rough spots on it still stick out thanks to lighting.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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I'm really wondering why China still pushes for submachine guns in military usage rather than carbines. Even in some of the recent photos with troops decked out in new xingkong gear some still had smg's with suppressors. I'm wondering if it's just old doctrine that has yet to be updated since I think that type of squad set up is from the Sino-Vietnam war. Police I can understand since lower recoil and less penetration can be ideal especially in a country where firearm and body armor ownership is rare.
They seem to have both. Well generally the SMG is considered obsolete. It still has a couple of aspects that are advantageous. As the recent US Army Subcompact weapon program showed, major military are still interested in the class not just China. First is compactness a 9mm caliber SMG vs even an equivalent barrel length Assault rifle carbine will always be smaller. This is a plus as a PDW or for personal security detachments. In suppressed a Pistol caliber generally takes better as the ammunition isn’t as likely to be super sonic. For Urban well some Rifle ammunition may not penetrate military are restricted to FMJ which generally will, SMG rounds have reduced chance of that.
Based on images from the parade and the like the PLA seems to be issuing the new SMG as a Vehicle crew weapon, which makes sense. Presumably other rear line personnel would similarly be armed, Cooks, mechanics, artillery, Staff officers, Medics… ecta. This doctrine would be comparable to the aim of weapons like the M4 Carbine (Not M4A1), P90, MP7A1, AKS74U and M1 Carbine of WW2. A weapon more compact, easy to carry that is better than a pistol can be fired one handed and does the full power of a rifle. The point isn’t to actually be used in combat but offer the user a means of running away after getting the aggressor to duck.
 

by78

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QBZ-95 with desert camo wrap.

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