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Tomboy said:

Checkpoint should be the end of this year, 2026 marks the start of 155 not 2025. Also, I don't think military projects has anything to do with MIC2025 which is a civilian thing.

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You are not gonna have a presentable vehicle in 2025 if you don’t have the goodies tested out before hand. MIC2025 is on the surface a civilian thing, but the ramifications cover all the fields. A lot of civilian and private business innovations feed into military tech in China.

Temstar said:

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Previously seen military containers.
The 3 suggested missions in top left frame are:
1. attack enemy fleet
2. attack enemy transport fleet
3. attack enemy port

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Which happens to be on 舰船知识 where most ppl (much more so for ppl outside of this forum) don't pay attention to except for high quality magazine scans.

This is a classic "I told you bro" moment.

pkj said:

Now waiting on the requisite TWZ article.

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They will suddenly remember that laws of the sea, UNCLOS exist and why piracy bad

Temstar said:

Do container ships go faster if they are lightly loaded? Curious if it can break 20 knots.

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It depends, too lightly loaded and you end with half your prop out of the water which causes a waste of RPM's and increased vibrations which will require you to slow the engine down negating any potential advantage offered by a light load. You will be required to add enough ballast in order to maintain an optimal waterline if you want top speed.

One more thing: 人类海洋命运共同体 is a very serious and formal political term, not some random organization is qualified to use it. This is definitely not a movie prop.

edit: looks like the top of this container was bent under the weight

bsdnf said:

Perhaps it never needed to follow a military fleet. Whether as a mobile port perimeter anti-air position or an escort node along a shipping route, it didn't need to be that fast.

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Such armed container ships can also loiter and/or outright be stationary in the middle of the Bohai, Yellow, East and South China Seas. They could serve as forward pickets + SAM batteries that would extend China's SAM coverage into the sea from the Chinese shorelines, alongside serving as backup SAM batteries for the Chinese-held islands/atolls in the SCS.

I think it's a cost-saving measure, no more & no less. It has the firepower of a mini-052D but probably at a fraction of the cost.

Probably has a smaller crew than the 052D and might even be unmanned.

It's not like we haven't seen cost-cutting implementations or "cheap" products within the Chinese MIC before. This vessel is the naval equivalent of a Toyota technical equipped with a HJ-8 missile.

A few observations..

1. The radars and the CIWS seem too big to fit inside the containers, these are not able to hide but instead are permanently deployed. It can’t pretend to be a regular container ship.

2. There are 2 life rafts between the decoy launchers so it’s probably lightly manned.

3. 人类海洋命运共同体 suggests this is also for export.

4. Two of these has more UVLS than a 055.

ACuriousPLAFan said:

Such armed container ships can also loiter and/or outright be stationary in the middle of the Bohai, Yellow, East and South China Seas. They could serve as forward pickets + SAM batteries that would extend China's SAM coverage into the sea from the Chinese shorelines, alongside serving as backup SAM batteries for the Chinese-held islands/atolls in the SCS.

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Yes, I believe this is closely related to the JASSM/LRASM.

JASSM/LRASM uses a high-high-low trajectory, utilizing the Earth's curvature at the terminal stage to compress the detection and defense capabilities of ground-based SAM systems. PLAN needed specialized destroyer-frigate fleet to extended coastal air defense zones, but their VLS capacity was limited and vulnerability to LRASM strikes constrained their effectiveness.

These container ships, at least the anti air version, stripped of their anti-submarine and anti-ship capabilities, have taken on some of the nears sea air defense tasks, allowing more fleets to extend the defense perimeter further into the far seas.

Neurosmith said:

I think it's a cost-saving measure, no more & no less. It has the firepower of a mini-052D but probably at a fraction of the cost.

Probably has a smaller crew than the 052D and might even be unmanned.

It's not like we haven't seen cost-cutting implementations or "cheap" products within the Chinese MIC before. This vessel is the naval equivalent of a Toyota technical equipped with a HJ-8 missile.

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it is more than just cost-saving, this will severely complicate US maritime surveillance. Assuming satellites rely on some sort of AI imagery recognition to quickly discern a warship from civilian ships, based on the shape and wake pattern, they could no longer do this and will require enhanced imagery or confirmation from a second source such as aerial assets. it is of course quite convenient that Chinese shores are littered with thousands of these ships, there is simply no way to know which one, if any are operated by the PLA. mere suspicion of these ships being deployed is enough to drastically slow, if not entirely deter, USN deployment into a particular theatre.

In my opinion, assuming this is not a a movie prop, this is as much of a game changer as J-36 or H-20, insofar as Taiwan is concerned.

Are people really taking this seriously? Will we post the 南天门计划 props next and talk about the 7th Gen fighters?