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manqiangrexue said:

It's a slippery slope once you start dealing like that. It's essentially allowing someone to successfully hedge a strategy of blackmail against you where you give them something and they simply don't do anything. They will get used to that and learn that when dealing with you, they don't have to offer anything back; they just have to create some trouble and then not follow through to get free things from you. Only make exchanges where both sides give and take. The benign response to this type of offer is to reject it. The more aggressive reaction is to cause a larger problem for the blackmailer so that he rescinds his actions in exchange for you rescinding yours. But there are two further points.

1. China and Pakistan have a very amicable relationship so this blackmail exchange is not on the table. If there are problems, the countries can talk and work it out reasonably.

2. Pakistani ammunition is not going to make a difference to Ukraine or Russia. See all the US puppets bleeding themselves out to give to Ukraine? Pakistan's little gift is a drop in an ocean. If Pakistan has its own reasons to do this, whether it be revenge for Russia supplying India or to gain something from the West, China doesn't necessarily need to stop it.

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Rafi said:

Do bear in mind that Russia is a major supplier of weapon systems to India.

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beijing_bandar said:

China should definitely not hold it against Russia for supplying India.

1) If Russia did not have India as a customer its arms industry would significantly scale down. The US would be able to shift forces from Europe to the Pacific because the Russian military would be less formidable.
2) India would instead buy from the US, France, and Israel. A strong US-India relationship is bad. US real time intelligence during a war would transform the capabilities of the crappy Indian Army.
3) India will continue to need spare parts from Russia and must maintain a good relationship with Russia politically. The second order effect of India's good relations with Russia is friction with the US and Europe.

Although it's of course bad that the PLA must face the S-400 in Eastern Ladakh, there's still too much upside to consider in Russia supplying India. In any case, the Russia-India arms relationship should have no bearing on the Pakistan-Ukraine arms relationship. The fact that Russia sells to India does not make us any less opposed to Pakistan selling to Ukraine to wage war against Russia.

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beijing_bandar said:

China should definitely not hold it against Russia for supplying India.

1) If Russia did not have India as a customer its arms industry would significantly scale down. The US would be able to shift forces from Europe to the Pacific because the Russian military would be less formidable.
2) India would instead buy from the US, France, and Israel. A strong US-India relationship is bad. US real time intelligence during a war would transform the capabilities of the crappy Indian Army.
3) India will continue to need spare parts from Russia and must maintain a good relationship with Russia politically. The second order effect of India's good relations with Russia is friction with the US and Europe.

Although it's of course bad that the PLA must face the S-400 in Eastern Ladakh, there's still too much upside to consider in Russia supplying India. In any case, the Russia-India arms relationship should have no bearing on the Pakistan-Ukraine arms relationship. The fact that Russia sells to India does not make us any less opposed to Pakistan selling to Ukraine to wage war against Russia.

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Rafi said:

Pakistan and China are close allies, but you seem to be saying that India and Russia can do what they want regarding defence, but Pakistan can't, that will not work, and the CPC would not ask it to.

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beijing_bandar said:

If India purchased from US, French, and Israeli suppliers and excluded Russian suppliers I do not think it would change the military balance between India and Pakistan.

If Pakistan stopped supplying Ukraine and gave China the opportunity to offer something in exchange (this is an important reciprocal part of my suggestion) then it would help Russia on the battlefield.

I'm sorry to say this but I think you're just trying to find an excuse and are the 4th Pakistani commentator to ignore concerns.

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beijing_bandar said:

If India purchased from US, French, and Israeli suppliers and excluded Russian suppliers I do not think it would change the military balance between India and Pakistan.

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beijing_bandar said:

If Pakistan stopped supplying Ukraine and gave China the opportunity to offer something in exchange (this is an important reciprocal part of my suggestion) then it would help Russia on the battlefield.

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