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Progress of Alibaba cloud and its Yitian-710 server chip:

The Yitian-710 is the currently fastest sever CPU in the world.
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I guess they will offer the Panjiu servers equipped with Yitian-710 widely this month. I actually see ECS clusters using Yitian-710 on Alibaba cloud product listings but that might just be for select customers.

More on Alibaba cloud
据张建锋介绍，在芯片层面，阿里云是全球支持CPU种类最多的云厂商，基于“一云多芯”战略对X86、ARM、RISC-V等多种架构进行适配，兼容飞腾、鲲鹏、
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、Ampere等多种CPU，形成标准形态的算力输出。同时，阿里云针对云计算大规模、高并发特性，推出自研CPU芯片倚天710。目前，倚天710已在阿里云数据中心内部规模化部署，并顺利支撑2021年双11等多个核心业务。今年4月，基于倚天710的公共云 ECS实例已上线邀测。
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it supports more type of CPU than any other cloud service. Including the latest Yitian-710 CPU. Yitian-710 is already widely deployed in Alibaba cloud's internal data center and supported 2021's double 11 core project. Yitian-710 started to allow testing in public cloud ECS in April.

From earnings call on Alibaba cloud
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For Q1 2022, Alibaba cloud has risen to 40% of China's market share (from 36.7% in 2021). It has also really expanded internationally. In 3 years, it has 10x in size. It has increased market share every year since 2017. Alibaba cloud is a major part of China's digital BRI effort in ASEAN countries imo.

From March to May, Alibaba cloud built new data centers in Thailand, Seoul and Germany. This was followed by an agreement with Thailand's Telecom to provide cloud services. In July, they built a customer center in Porto, Portugal. They have mostly completed a service network across Europe, Middle East and Southeast Asia.

In June, Alibaba cloud launched CIPU to challenge AWS
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In August, it worked with XPeng to build a large self driving AI data center with 600 PFLOPS calculation.

Alibaba has set up AI data center for quite a few corporations with their Feitian smart platform. Including XPeng, DP Technology, SAIC, China Meterological Admin and southern power grid.
飞天智算平台已在阿里内部广泛应用，支撑达摩院前沿AI和电商智能技术发展，并服务了小鹏汽车、深势科技、上汽集团、中国气象局、南方电网等机构和企业，支撑自动驾驶、新药研发、气象预测、工业能源等行业大幅提升AI训练效率。
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They are big in many Asian countries. Back in June of 2021, they launched the project AsiaForward program where they pledged $1 billion to nurture 100,000 developers and tech startups in 3 years
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They also made KL the home of their global hub in southeast asia. As someone who keeps getting Lazada emails, I'd say they are doing pretty well in their e-commerce presence in Malaysia
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Alibaba cloud also is trying to build its local presence there with more programs like Digital Heroes
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Now, Lazada wants to make its foray into Europe. It currently operates in Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, the Philippines and Vietnam.
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I will look at the international presence of other Chinese big tech/cloud service providers next time.
 
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tphuang said:
Progress of Alibaba cloud and its Yitian-710 server chip:

The Yitian-710 is the currently fastest sever CPU in the world.
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I guess they will offer the Panjiu servers equipped with Yitian-710 widely this month. I actually see ECS clusters using Yitian-710 on Alibaba cloud product listings but that might just be for select customers.

More on Alibaba cloud

it supports more type of CPU than any other cloud service. Including the latest Yitian-710 CPU. Yitian-710 is already widely deployed in Alibaba cloud's internal data center and supported 2021's double 11 core project. Yitian-710 started to allow testing in public cloud ECS in April.

From earnings call on Alibaba cloud
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For Q1 2022, Alibaba cloud has risen to 40% of China's market share (from 36.7% in 2021). It has also really expanded internationally. In 3 years, it has 10x in size. It has increased market share every year since 2017. Alibaba cloud is a major part of China's digital BRI effort in ASEAN countries imo.

From March to May, Alibaba cloud built new data centers in Thailand, Seoul and Germany. This was followed by an agreement with Thailand's Telecom to provide cloud services. In July, they built a customer center in Porto, Portugal. They have mostly completed a service network across Europe, Middle East and Southeast Asia.

In June, Alibaba cloud launched CIPU to challenge AWS
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In August, it worked with XPeng to build a large self driving AI data center with 600 PFLOPS calculation.

Alibaba has set up AI data center for quite a few corporations with their Feitian smart platform. Including XPeng, DP Technology, SAIC, China Meterological Admin and southern power grid.


They are big in many Asian countries. Back in June of 2021, they launched the project AsiaForward program where they pledged $1 billion to nurture 100,000 developers and tech startups in 3 years
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They also made KL the home of their global hub in southeast asia. As someone who keeps getting Lazada emails, I'd say they are doing pretty well in their e-commerce presence in Malaysia
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Alibaba cloud also is trying to build its local presence there with more programs like Digital Heroes
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Now, Lazada wants to make its foray into Europe. It currently operates in Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, the Philippines and Vietnam.
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I will look at the international presence of other Chinese big tech/cloud service providers next time.
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The US may find an excuse of National security issues of this chip, it seems Yitian-710 server chip is extremely competitive
Do you think the US would ban this chip be manufactured by TSMC ? when ?
 
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The US may find an excuse of National security issues of this chip, it seems Yitian-710 server chip is extremely competitive
Do you think the US would ban this chip be manufactured by TSMC ? when ?
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This actually would be one of the less likely things to get banned. Alibaba cloud itself is unlikely to face unilateral ban like Huawei. So, the question is whether or not America can force TSMC/Samsung to stop producing server chips for China. That seems like something very low on their wish list. After all, this is not AI related, which seems to be the current obsession for US political establishment. Remember, all those 2 generation recommendation by Eric Schmidt was related to AI chips. And just as importantly, yitian-710 is one of many server chips offered to public cloud by Alibaba. It just has very low visibility. I doubt anyone other than the big nerds in chips community would even heard of this. In a couple of years, SMIC should be able to produce 5 nm chips, so that is wouldn't even be an issue anymore.

To me, the bigger issue is how quickly Alibaba cloud can make Panjiu and Yitian-710 publicly accessible and promote the heck out of it. I think most Chinese people would love to see the day when Alibaba cloud services are using chips designed by Pingtouge.
 
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This actually would be one of the less likely things to get banned. Alibaba cloud itself is unlikely to face unilateral ban like Huawei. So, the question is whether or not America can force TSMC/Samsung to stop producing server chips for China. That seems like something very low on their wish list. After all, this is not AI related, which seems to be the current obsession for US political establishment. Remember, all those 2 generation recommendation by Eric Schmidt was related to AI chips. And just as importantly, yitian-710 is one of many server chips offered to public cloud by Alibaba. It just has very low visibility. I doubt anyone other than the big nerds in chips community would even heard of this. In a couple of years, SMIC should be able to produce 5 nm chips, so that is wouldn't even be an issue anymore.

To me, the bigger issue is how quickly Alibaba cloud can make Panjiu and Yitian-710 publicly accessible and promote the heck out of it. I think most Chinese people would love to see the day when Alibaba cloud services are using chips designed by Pingtouge.
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Don’t know about other machine learning stuff but good luck beating China at automated driving. If the algorithm could navigate this kind of traffic and clueless/rude drivers and pedestrians, it could navigate roads anywhere else.

 
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