China is basically Atlantis in Chariots of the Gods
News on China's scientific and technological development.
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Well the new solar based Hydrogen plant start operation
Operation began on Tuesday on the world's largest solar powered hydrogen plant in China. The project, owned by Baofeng Energy Group, uses a 200-MW solar power plant located in northwest China's Ningxia Hui Autonomous Region to electrolyze water to make hydrogen, which replaces coal.
Operation began on Tuesday on the world's largest solar powered hydrogen plant in China. The project, owned by Baofeng Energy Group, uses a 200-MW solar power plant located in northwest China's Ningxia Hui Autonomous Region to electrolyze water to make hydrogen, which replaces coal.
Ehhhh, the term "hack proof" has been used before. Making the data volatile if accessed inappropriately isn't a new idea.
How does the CAS work actually? Is it a postgrad research institution? Is it a national lab for theoretical and applied sciences? Is it a national research institution that is basically a framework structure for academics to cooperate and find funding for commercial and classified R&D? Is it purely theoretical or not limited and involved in experimentation?
It seemed to me that CAS was just an organisation for academics to join. Sort of like a nationally recognised position in a certain field with access to multiple universities so that members can find the correct people and facilities regardless of institution as long as it's a public one - so basically all of them.
In a way it seems unfair to compare CAS with the others. CAS seems to me (and I'm sure I'm wrong) that it's basically like Harvard + Stanford + MIT + Caltech + Princeton + JPL + LLNL + DoE NL + LANL. The American equivalent of CAS if they bothered to create a structure to connect it and could do that under some federal umbrella, would be many times greater than CAS as thorouhgly impressive as CAS already is.
My understanding is that CAS has plenty of industry connections as well which is how they get around the whole money-innovation-market-incentive question/problem but it remains predominantly academic and not yet worked out how to grease the wheels of lab to commercial cycle. The western method isn't necessarily better but they still do plenty of things that have almost guaranteed low to nil financial profit. It's good that China's starting to create it's own private sector competitors and Zaibatsu/Chaebol like technology powerhouses like Huawei, Ali, Tencent and the dozens of smaller players that are less well known. While those conglomerate giants don't necessarily contribute as much to tech progress like niche industry only guys like Sunway's Jiangnan Computing Lab for example, I think they will become a greater driver in future by greasing the gears.
Tencent contributes f all to IC problem in China but CAS developed the Loongson processors. The way CAS and the academic, development, and industry connections work in China is quite different to how the model works in the west. I think China's big and dynamic enough to embrace all models like it's starting to with space with small steps. The cooperation between state and private groups should be carefully looked at to allow maximum progress rate but in a way that facilitate those functions without blocking off access, funding, incomes, incentives etc. It's like the west is a little too capital driven in these respects while China is too authoritarian. Again there is enough in China to diversify.
Tencent, Alibaba etc are all garbage and should be ashamed of themselves. Tiny Huawei had the whole US apparatus gunning for it while all these "tech" companies are playing around
They should had heavily invested into REAL R&D and not.fake anticompetitive practises.
I hope Xi comes and clean them up. The only smart guy there is that CEO of Pinduoduo who resigned, donated money 100m dollars to his university (!), and he will now try to enter the food science sector.
The other billionaires can go pound sand. They better start doing real R&D or they should get locked up and investigated
I guess the excitement was all in the fact that this is quite a breakthrough and beats the previous tech by 6000%
Hack proof has been a thing since China first "teleported" information over record breaking distances and then developed and produced the world's first and only experimental quantum communications satellite. It's not a new idea but about as widespread and understood as calculus in a western high school lol. Honestly this is some elite of the elite club, more exclusive than the neutron bomb.
All this stuff is far from commercially possible or useful at the moment. Just interesting concepts and work in progress being reported. There are still morons out there who believe China isn't easily top 5 in overall technology expertise, research, development, and academics. Only capable of happy meal toys lol. Still the most popular dismissive and insulting attitudes being peddled by mostly Indians and Nazis online.
Quantum technology is revolutionary. IMO China is at the the top there together with the US (mayne even leading the US in some specific quantum subcategories)
I am salivating at the idea of quantum radars and ASW quantum detection for submarines. These very advanced US subs will become naked in front of quantum technology for detecting them underwater.
Really exciting field
They're garbage when it comes to certain things like helping develop engineering solutions to overcome IC fab ban... at the moment... it would appear. But these things are absolute crown jewels. Each contributes to GDP more than some entire nations. They also developed plenty of innovative tech particularly fintech and software.
I can count on two hands the countries that have equivalent technology conglomerates that contribute so much both in terms of income and technology development. Germany, Japan, S.Korea, USA, China, France, Canada, UK, Sweden. That is literally it I think. Russia's aviation giants are niche and aren't exactly leading their fields anymore. Ukraine ditto. Norway's ship building may lead certain fields but again very niche and nothing like a Sumitomo or Huawei. India's Adani group is a giant and certainly makes money but it isn't in tech really ... not even in the slightest. Not a single thing it is even remotely competitive in let alone close to leading or leading. Energy and construction doesn't count because every country has those... they just aren't necessarily dominated by one guy or family. S.Korea's "equivalent" in Samsung or Hyundai ROTEM does everything from microprocessors to gas turbines to radars to Black Panther tanks... and they lead so many aspects.
9 countries with something like Tencent or Ali who R&D and put into "production" real consumable products, many that are first in the world and innovative ... again contrary to the cheap internet soundbytes of "China can only copy and make cheap low tech stuff" lol... China can copy and do it well for sure... but it's got a few more engines gunning at the same time. Other unrisen nations can't even copy when the original guys give them everything and hold their hands through it all
I hope they really do real R&D and not just buying companies to shut down the competition, this is what I am more concerned about.They're garbage when it comes to certain things like helping develop engineering solutions to overcome IC fab ban... at the moment... it would appear. But these things are absolute crown jewels. Each contributes to GDP more than some entire nations. They also developed plenty of innovative tech particularly fintech and software.
I can count on two hands the countries that have equivalent technology conglomerates that contribute so much both in terms of income and technology development. Germany, Japan, S.Korea, USA, China, France, Canada, UK, Sweden. That is literally it I think. Russia's aviation giants are niche and aren't exactly leading their fields anymore. Ukraine ditto. Norway's ship building may lead certain fields but again very niche and nothing like a Sumitomo or Huawei. India's Adani group is a giant and certainly makes money but it isn't in tech really ... not even in the slightest. Not a single thing it is even remotely competitive in let alone close to leading or leading. Energy and construction doesn't count because every country has those... they just aren't necessarily dominated by one guy or family. S.Korea's "equivalent" in Samsung or Hyundai ROTEM does everything from microprocessors to gas turbines to radars to Black Panther tanks... and they lead so many aspects.
9 countries with something like Tencent or Ali who R&D and put into "production" real consumable products, many that are first in the world and innovative ... again contrary to the cheap internet soundbytes of "China can only copy and make cheap low tech stuff" lol... China can copy and do it well for sure... but it's got a few more engines gunning at the same time. Other unrisen nations can't even copy when the original guys give them everything and hold their hands through it all
When one company brings innovative products to the market, Alibaba comes swinging its pile of cash, buys the company and then make them align with the "Alibaba Strategy". This is blatanly anti-competitive and it is actively shutting down the competition.
Are all these Alibaba executives donating to their universities so they can do R&D?
I am worried that they are more busy shutting down the competition than they are about doing Real R&D
I'm under no illusion when it comes to the US. They have never slowed down and have only enjoyed improved means to out-accelerate China even an organised, well funded China with its act together. While China is just so bloody impressive these days, it still doesn't come close to touching the US. Every index and metric shows the gap is still wide and will involve time consuming efforts, systemic changes, and mass funding campaigns that become productive, to bridge the overall gap. China's only close or leading the US in the fields of communications tech, energy, and computing. Maybe also software that doesn't fall under comms which I feel China's actually WELL ahead in mostly because US doesn't really have those industries anymore and don't seem to be trying there at all. Everything else China's either a bit behind or well behind.
Whatever the US considers being possible, they'd have long arrived at those realisations and been working to counter. Of course, revolutionary sensors tech could disrupt those military platforms until a new modular upgrade counters them and so on. I don't think it'll be as simple as "we've got photonics radar that can guide missiles with 0.99 pk so that's it game's over". It's a gradual thing and gradual counters become realised.