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Nutrient

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Arm said its latest tech upgrade is not subject to US export regulations

Huawei can probably get ARM licenses from Hou An Innovations, which
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for $775 million. It is barely possible that Hou An did not buy the rights to all future ARM generations, but if they didn't buy all future versions why did they spend $775 million? So I expect that Hou An will have the next version, and Huawei can license it from Hou An.

Of course, ARM UK could break contractual obligations and keep its future versions from the Middle Kingdom. But if they did that, the ARM world would split, with China making its version incompatible with the UK version. ARM China is now owned by a Chinese company, so (1) this would be legal, and (2) the Chinese version would probably have the legal right to be called "ARM". Due to the split, China's growing economic power could be used to establish the Chinese ARM as the dominant version, and ARM UK would lose its dominance. So I doubt the UK guys would be dishonorable.

I think Huawei does not have to be worried about access to future ARM generations. The company has other problems though.
 
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Huawei can probably get ARM licenses from Hou An Innovations, which
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for $775 million. It is barely possible that Hou An did not buy the rights to all future ARM generations, but if they got only one generation why did they spend $775 million? So I expect Huawei can license the next ARM from Hou An.

Of course, ARM UK could break contractual obligations and keep its future versions from the Middle Kingdom. But if they did that, the ARM world would split, with China making its version incompatible with the UK version. ARM China is now owned by a Chinese company, so (1) this would be legal, and (2) the Chinese version would probably have the legal right to be called "ARM". The two incompatible ARMs would create enormous confusion in the market (i.e. an app may work in one version but not in another). Due to the split, China's growing economic power could be used to establish the Chinese ARM as the dominant version, and ARM UK would lose its dominance. So I doubt the UK guys would be dishonorable.

I think Huawei does not have to be worried about access to future ARM generations. The company has other problems though.
Not good to base off the entire tech ecosystem to the "doubt the UK would be dishonorable". The UK doesn't have a stellar reputation, if.you get my meaning.


I think its better for China to give it up and switch everything to RISC-V which is a true open source project. Nothing good happens when you depend on foreign tech IP
 

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Not good to base off the entire tech ecosystem to the "doubt the UK would be dishonorable". The UK doesn't have a stellar reputation, if.you get my meaning.

I wasn't counting on the honor of the UK: in that entire paragraph I discussed why any contract breaking by ARM UK would cause them to lose in the long run. Here's the paragraph again:

Of course, ARM UK could break contractual obligations and keep its future versions from the Middle Kingdom. But if they did that, the ARM world would split, with China making its version incompatible with the UK version. ARM China is now owned by a Chinese company, so (1) this would be legal, and (2) the Chinese version would probably have the legal right to be called "ARM". Due to the split, China's growing economic power could be used to establish the Chinese ARM as the dominant version, and ARM UK would lose its dominance. So I doubt the UK guys would be dishonorable.


I think its better for China to give it up and switch everything to RISC-V which is a true open source project. Nothing good happens when you depend on foreign tech IP

RISC-V should probably be kept in reserve, in case ARM UK does something stupid.
 

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I wasn't counting on the honor of the UK: in that entire paragraph I discussed why any contract breaking by ARM UK would cause them to lose in the long run. Here's the paragraph again:






RISC-V should probably be kept in reserve, in case ARM UK does something stupid.
Yes but ideally the Chinese wouldn't want the world to split. China now is ascending the tech ladder and it now ready to benefit from all this new tech it is developing.

If the world was split then there would be problems for Chinese tech companies. Thats why I said to go for RISC-V in the first place to be sure that everything is ok


Now if the US (and its vassals) decide that they want to split the world then that would be very very difficult if China uses RISC-V from the start. They could still do it, but the costs would be much higher for them
 

Nutrient

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Yes but ideally the Chinese wouldn't want the world to split. China now is ascending the tech ladder and it now ready to benefit from all this new tech it is developing.

If the world was split then there would be problems for Chinese tech companies. Thats why I said to go for RISC-V in the first place to be sure that everything is ok

You misunderstand. The ARM world would not split if the UK guys kept their word and handed their new design to ARM China. If ARM UK were dishonorable, then and only then would China go its own way. I think it's best to give the others a chance to be honorable, as long as we can make them suffer if they cheat.
 

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Kunming University of Science and Technology university’s research team has recently made important breakthroughs in the field of ultra-high temperature tantalate thermal barrier coating technology. The maximum operating temperature of advanced thermal barrier coating materials has been increased to 1,400 degrees Celsius, and up to 1,600 degrees Celsius. The thermal barrier cooling gradient is increased by 100 degrees Celsius to 500 degrees Celsius, so that China's thermal barrier coating technology has reached the leading level in the world.

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科技日报昆明4月2日电(记者 赵汉斌)记者4月2日从昆明理工大学了解到,该校研究团队新近在超高温钽酸盐热障涂层技术领域取得重要突破,将先进热障涂层材料最高使用温度提高至1400摄氏度,且最高可达1600摄氏度,将隔热降温梯度提高100摄氏度至500摄氏度,使我国的热障涂层技术在国际上达到领先水平。
 

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