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Appix

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Absolutely. The past 2,5 years was full with inaction and appeasement from CCP when confronted with American agression. They have been blabbering since May 2018 about that unreliable entity list. Tzssk.
 

Xizor

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That's not the appropriate response as perfect security is impossible to achieve and performs no deterrence. The appropriate response is that if Ant's service is "degraded" for a few weeks then the US goes without electricity for a few weeks.
I disagree. Fintech companies within China are insulated from the threats of cyber attacks from the wider world. One reason is the strong government system in place that Mets outs good punishments and the other is the language barrier.

Compare that to US companies which constantly get attacked by other entities (due to the US centered Global internet as well as the dominance of English language ).

If Ant or any other Chinese Fintech is going to go global, then they must be ready to face the big ruthless world of cyber attacks.

Ofcourse, my argument perches on the understanding that China is insulated, relatively atleast, from global cyber attacks and China's cyber security sphere is less developed.
 

caudaceus

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I disagree. Fintech companies within China are insulated from the threats of cyber attacks from the wider world. One reason is the strong government system in place that Mets outs good punishments and the other is the language barrier.

Compare that to US companies which constantly get attacked by other entities (due to the US centered Global internet as well as the dominance of English language ).

If Ant or any other Chinese Fintech is going to go global, then they must be ready to face the big ruthless world of cyber attacks.

Ofcourse, my argument perches on the understanding that China is insulated, relatively atleast, from global cyber attacks and China's cyber security sphere is less developed.
Reading that tweet I got a feeling that RonVarra is the one who proposed it.
I don't know whether Esper was in the loop, but he should know that doing attacks like that after your admin voted out (I assume) towards core financial services is a hell of provocation. Might as well bomb run the SCS military bases, still less damaging.
 

hashtagpls

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Why is very very far? With this logic the 20years old TGV which run at 587 km/h is superior to last years Fuxings? Japan needs to put in use this shuttle. Or never happened :p
That's not the appropriate response as perfect security is impossible to achieve and performs no deterrence. The appropriate response is that if Ant's service is "degraded" for a few weeks then the US goes without electricity for a few weeks.
A cyber attack like that is an act of war; China should take this to the UN in such a case and issue arrest warrants backed up by PLA SpecOps to bring in Pompeo and other assorted NSA Hackers to justice.
 

Tyler

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I agree. It's just CCP should be careful of appearing appeasing the foreigners too much. Despite the great fire wall, younger generations of Chinese are better educated and many are acutely aware of west's ongoing effort to cripple China. Unlike the older generations who didn't grow up during the rise, they are increasingly difficult to satisfy with meaningless platitudes issued by the governmental ministries. Hope CCP doesn't wait too long, everyone has a limit to inaction.
Banning French wines and Swedish Ikea would be a good start.
 

Tam

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News regarding Netease.

AI conference takes place inside Netease's MMORPG.

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Netease signs up with Huawei's cloud services.

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Xizor

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Reading that tweet I got a feeling that RonVarra is the one who proposed it.
I don't know whether Esper was in the loop, but he should know that doing attacks like that after your admin voted out (I assume) towards core financial services is a hell of provocation. Might as well bomb run the SCS military bases, still less damaging.
Cyber attacks happen all the time to Fintech companies. Just go over to any reputed cyber security firm website and look at the reports.

There is something called plausible deniability esp when discussing asymmetrical Warfare. How are you going to argue that it was indeed DoD of US or Pentagon related entity which attacked China?

What if they deny it? How are you going to retaliate against them if your case doesn't have a strong evidence that proves them as the aggressor.

What if the cyber attacks originate from, say, a Latin American or Eastern European country? What if it originates from a neutral country?

Ofcourse, cyber Warfare is messy. China could do the same to US at a later time and date from another country too. It's my suggestion that Chinese Fintech firms breakout into Europe, South East Asia( already doing) and Africa. The collateral damage would be too much, just in case US decides to sponsor an attack.
 

Xizor

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A cyber attack like that is an act of war; China should take this to the UN in such a case and issue arrest warrants backed up by PLA SpecOps to bring in Pompeo and other assorted NSA Hackers to justice.
No, it isn't. Cyber attacks beget Cyber attacks.
The UN is nothing but an organization built to give a semblance of peace and harmony among developing countries. Great powers are not beholden to UN directions.

No international organization is going to help if China and US clash. Rules for big powers are just nuisances.
 

supercat

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Millimeter high-precision positioning services in real time is coming thanks to BeiDou and 5G networks:
Baidu Maps supports BeiDou high-precision positioning system on China Mobile's 5G network
China Mobile recently unveiled the world's largest "5G + BeiDou high-precision positioning" system at the 5G Autopilot Summit, which will provide sub-meter, centimeter, and millimeter high-precision positioning services in real time through 5G networks.
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Just imagine the potential for military application...
 

weig2000

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Millimeter high-precision positioning services in real time is coming thanks to BeiDou and 5G networks:

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Just imagine the potential for military application...

5G + Beidou high-precision positioning services probably have more civilian applications. Think about remote operating mining equipment, autonomous parking etc. The combination of millisecond time lag and millimeter position precision can drive some crazy applications.

China is laying the foundation for a digital, autonomous and intelligent economy and society.
 
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