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anzha

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I wonder how long it will take before the Five Eyes System is rendered useless when it comes to obtaining sensitive Chinese communications?

It depends on how secure the endpoints are. It might be they are not as secure as thought or there are other ways to get in.

It doesn't matter how secure the communications are if the points communicating are compromised.

Five Eyes might shift from Elint to cyber operations. And probably have some.
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
Huawei is not the only fabless chip designer UNISOC unveil their 6 nm SOC via broadsword

UNISOC's flagship 6nm chip to go into mass production this year
2020-06-17 19:37:06 GMT+8

UNISOC, China-based supplier of mobile communications chipsets and IoT chipsets, will see its second-generation 5G SoC mobile chip, the Tiger T7520, be ready for mass production this year.

Citing supply chain sources, Chinastarmarket said that UNISOC's flagship smartphone with the chip will be available in early 2021, the first clarity on the timing of the device's availability.

The Tiger T7520 is UNISOC's 5G SoC mobile platform launched on February 26, 2020, and is the world's first 6nm EUV process chip.

UNISOC's public information shows that if compared with TSMC's 7nm process chips, the T7520 transistor density increased by 18%, the same performance power consumption by 8%.

The chip integrates a new generation of NPU (embedded neural network processor), which is unit independent and primarily used to implement AI computing and AI applications.
The T7520 is equipped with UNISOC's sixth-generation image engine Vivimagic solution and second-generation FDR (Full Dynamic Range) technology, a dedicated AI accelerator, and an upgraded quad-core ISP (Image Signal Processing) architecture that supports up to 100-megapixel resolution and multi-camera processing capabilities.

The chip achieves a multi-frame synthesis speed of 1.6 Gigapixel/s, equaling the performance of Qualcomm's Snapdragon 855 family of chips Support 4K@60fps video recording, with Qualcomm mid-range chip 765G and Hisilicon high-end chip Kirin The 990 has similar capabilities.

It integrates a 5G baseband chip, which UNISOC called "the world's first enhanced 5G baseband with full-scene coverage" when it was announced on February 26.

It supports sub-6GHz frequency bands, NSA/SA dual-mode networking, 2G to 5G seven-mode all-access, dual card dual 5G, and is specially optimized for live video streaming with big data upload capability.

However, the T7520 still matches the ARM Cortex-A76 architecture (released by ARM in 2018) rather than the A77 architecture, which was released in August 2019, if you look at the main-core CPU architecture generation on board.

This processing is exactly the same as the Hisilicon Kirin 990 5G, and the Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 also uses the A76 architecture.

Huawei Consumer Business CEO Richard Yu had this to say about the Over Explanation. He said the Kirin 990 5G, with its A76 architecture, has actually met user needs, out of consideration for range performance. The A77 architecture doesn't deliver significant improvements in experience, but its performance test numbers do improve.

The Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 is powered by the A77 architecture, which offers a 20 percent increase in overall performance over the Snapdragon 855.
 

ansy1968

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Registered Member
Huawei is not the only fabless chip designer UNISOC unveil their 6 nm SOC via broadsword

UNISOC's flagship 6nm chip to go into mass production this year
2020-06-17 19:37:06 GMT+8

UNISOC, China-based supplier of mobile communications chipsets and IoT chipsets, will see its second-generation 5G SoC mobile chip, the Tiger T7520, be ready for mass production this year.

Citing supply chain sources, Chinastarmarket said that UNISOC's flagship smartphone with the chip will be available in early 2021, the first clarity on the timing of the device's availability.

The Tiger T7520 is UNISOC's 5G SoC mobile platform launched on February 26, 2020, and is the world's first 6nm EUV process chip.

UNISOC's public information shows that if compared with TSMC's 7nm process chips, the T7520 transistor density increased by 18%, the same performance power consumption by 8%.

The chip integrates a new generation of NPU (embedded neural network processor), which is unit independent and primarily used to implement AI computing and AI applications.
The T7520 is equipped with UNISOC's sixth-generation image engine Vivimagic solution and second-generation FDR (Full Dynamic Range) technology, a dedicated AI accelerator, and an upgraded quad-core ISP (Image Signal Processing) architecture that supports up to 100-megapixel resolution and multi-camera processing capabilities.

The chip achieves a multi-frame synthesis speed of 1.6 Gigapixel/s, equaling the performance of Qualcomm's Snapdragon 855 family of chips Support 4K@60fps video recording, with Qualcomm mid-range chip 765G and Hisilicon high-end chip Kirin The 990 has similar capabilities.

It integrates a 5G baseband chip, which UNISOC called "the world's first enhanced 5G baseband with full-scene coverage" when it was announced on February 26.

It supports sub-6GHz frequency bands, NSA/SA dual-mode networking, 2G to 5G seven-mode all-access, dual card dual 5G, and is specially optimized for live video streaming with big data upload capability.

However, the T7520 still matches the ARM Cortex-A76 architecture (released by ARM in 2018) rather than the A77 architecture, which was released in August 2019, if you look at the main-core CPU architecture generation on board.

This processing is exactly the same as the Hisilicon Kirin 990 5G, and the Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 also uses the A76 architecture.

Huawei Consumer Business CEO Richard Yu had this to say about the Over Explanation. He said the Kirin 990 5G, with its A76 architecture, has actually met user needs, out of consideration for range performance. The A77 architecture doesn't deliver significant improvements in experience, but its performance test numbers do improve.

The Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 is powered by the A77 architecture, which offers a 20 percent increase in overall performance over the Snapdragon 855.
hi Hendrik_2000

Do you think there is a cooperation in designing Chips BETWEEN HUAWEI & UNISOC, in a way to circumvent the ban, and who will fabricate the chips since SMIC is still stuck at 14nm.
 

ansy1968

Brigadier
Registered Member
UNISOC has hired many Huawei Hisilicon talents recently. It is TSMC's 6nm. UNISOC focuses on low to mid segment of the market so it doesn't require the best tech yet.

HI KYli

Thanks for the info, a new bee question since Im not a semiconductor expert but is interested in CHINA HI TECH, Is it best for HUAWEI to diversify its CHIP DESIGN UNIT to other company to spread the known how and talent. In these way if anything happen to HUAWEI , other company will persist and take over.
 

KYli

Brigadier
Without Huawei, there wouldn't be Hisilicon. Without Kirin K3V2, there wouldn't be Kirin 990. Both ZTE and UNISOC have poached many talents from Huawei but they still are falling far behind Huawei.

The know how and talent are spreading no matter what but many companies do not have the stomach to keep investing and taking risk. Sometime, it is a company culture and leadership that counts.
 
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