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“But we failed and could not even re-assemble and restore [the robot’s] function because it’s not simple – it takes technological know-how and talent accumulated over decades,” Wang said.

China’s total spending on research and development is estimated to have risen 14 per cent last year to 1.76 trillion yuan, according to the Ministry of Science and Technology.



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But mass manufacturing was still out of the range for most China’s robotics producers, said Luo Jun, chief executive of the International Robotics and Intelligent Equipment Industry Alliance, a government think tank on smart manufacturing.

“Among the thousands of so-called Chinese robotics companies – including robot and automated equipment producers as well as those who only provide automation integration solutions – only about 100 firms could mass produce the main body and core components of high-end and middle-market industrial robots, such as servo motors, robot controllers and speed reducers,” he said.



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“We lack original research and have already tried to catch up by copying advanced technology. But neither technology-related mergers and acquisitions nor copycat [production] can close the gap in the short term.”

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It is this opportunity that has prompted
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, to expand its Chinese operations: it has offices in Beijing and Shanghai, in addition to Stuttgart, Germany, and its head office in Glattbrugg, Switzerland. The Swiss company even added the Chinese language to its corporate website.

“We believe the gap [between China and Europe in the robotics sector] is narrowing,” F&P’s chief financial officer Michael Früh said, citing a large number of recent engineering graduates with robotics training and gains made by Chinese robot component manufacturers with quality and price. “Europe still has a competitive advantage through a deeper understanding of robotics and all its aspects including AI, [and] its integration and collaborative interactions with humans.”



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Some Japanese companies such as Mitsubishi Electric and Fujitsu had also been forging strategic partnerships with Chinese firms, showing how eager they were to take advantage of the push towards advanced manufacturing in China’s huge market, said an analyst with a Japanese financial firm.

But Luo warned that most robot makers and local governments in China were pursuing short-sighted plans that focused on investing in existing technologies or setting up industrial estates to attract foreign robot manufacturers, rather than supporting original core research on the next generation of robots.

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He said many domestic robotics manufacturers were still developing the traditional core parts of robots, like servo motors, robot controllers and speed reducers. But these parts would not be the core components of the future, he said.



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“In the near future, new technologies for AI robots will begin to emerge at leading [foreign] tech companies,” Luo said. “That’s the real direction of smart manufacturing.”

Nevertheless, China’s efforts to wean itself off imported components are unlikely to be affected by the trade war with the United States.

In the first salvo of the US-China trade war, US President Donald Trump’s administration imposed a 25 per cent tariff on 818 categories of Chinese exports, including China-made robots.

Industry players agreed that China’s strong domestic demand and the sourcing of most of its core robot parts from Japan and the European Union, rather than from the US, meant the trade war was likely to have little, if any, impact on the sector.



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“The trade war, as far as robots are concerned, could even be good for Chinese companies,” Muirhead of Credit Suisse said. “I do not think it will hurt China’s robotics industry. The US is not a major player in industrial robotics.”

Ren of the Guangdong Robotics Association agreed.

“The export scale of China-made industrial robots to the US is too small [for the trade war] to have an effect on Chinese robot makers,” he said.

Instead, the focus now for Chinese authorities was on improving the quality of domestic robots to claw back some of the 70 per cent share of the home market taken up by imports, industry officials and analysts said.
 

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ASML optimistic about supplying 7nm litho equipment to Chinese chip fabs. ASML spokesman claims that the Wassenaur Agreement restrictions don't apply -- can anyone check whether this is true?
 

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This proves the Long March-9 project is getting along, not just some feasibility study.

BEIJING, Sept. 18 (Xinhua) -- China plans to launch the heavy-lift carrier rocket Long March-9 in 2028, said an official of China National Space Administration (CNSA) at the World Conference on Science Literacy 2018 on Tuesday.

Li Guoping, director of the Department of System Engineering of the CNSA, said that the length of the Long March-9 will exceed 90 meters, and the rocket would have a core stage with a diameter of 10 meters.

It would be able to carry a payload of 140 tonnes into low-Earth orbit, five times that of the Long March-5, said Li.


The rocket's capacity would also reach 50 tonnes for Earth-Moon transfer orbit.

China is also developing a medium space rocket, the Long March-8, which is expected to make its maiden flight in 2020.

The Long March rocket series have been launched 284 times, sending more than 400 spacecraft into space.

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This proves the Long March-9 project is getting along, not just some feasibility study.

BEIJING, Sept. 18 (Xinhua) -- China plans to launch the heavy-lift carrier rocket Long March-9 in 2028, said an official of China National Space Administration (CNSA) at the World Conference on Science Literacy 2018 on Tuesday.

Li Guoping, director of the Department of System Engineering of the CNSA, said that the length of the Long March-9 will exceed 90 meters, and the rocket would have a core stage with a diameter of 10 meters.

It would be able to carry a payload of 140 tonnes into low-Earth orbit, five times that of the Long March-5, said Li.


The rocket's capacity would also reach 50 tonnes for Earth-Moon transfer orbit.

China is also developing a medium space rocket, the Long March-8, which is expected to make its maiden flight in 2020.

The Long March rocket series have been launched 284 times, sending more than 400 spacecraft into space.

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140 ton was the capacity of the Saturn-V .

The only thing that justify it is the Moon / Mars landing.

Or the most brutal space fortress : D
 

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140 ton was the capacity of the Saturn-V .

The only thing that justify it is the Moon / Mars landing.

Or the most brutal space fortress : D
LM-9 was openly and officially stated to be for China's possible Luna landing program from the very beginning, there is no secret about that. The same requirement makes it a Saturn-V equivalent.
 

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LM-9 was openly and officially stated to be for China's possible Luna landing program from the very beginning, there is no secret about that. The same requirement makes it a Saturn-V equivalent.
Or they want to make super space station fortress : )

However the US lunar program was a very risky one, they haven't had enough radiation protection .
Simply doing lunar landing with similar parameters is risky, every trip has a few percent chance to catch a solar storm and kill all astronauts.

It could be more interesting if the shoot for near earth asteroid mining.
That should be the interesting move : )
 

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Or they want to make super space station fortress : )

However the US lunar program was a very risky one, they haven't had enough radiation protection .
Simply doing lunar landing with similar parameters is risky, every trip has a few percent chance to catch a solar storm and kill all astronauts.

It could be more interesting if the shoot for near earth asteroid mining.
That should be the interesting move : )
I was only pointing out the Chinese intention of manned lunar landing program therefor their need for a rocket of this size, not debating its worthiness and risks which is another subject.

Near earth asteroid mining is by for a Sci-Fi, far more challenging than a manned lunar landing, the cost will be far higher than gain.:) As of the super space station fortress, I believe that is just a joke of you, not serous.;)
 

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Via Haidian How can you compete China graduate 9X more STEM than US
China Is Building The World's Largest Innovation Economy
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China is on its way to becoming the largest economy in the world.

In just one generation, something like 300 million+ people went from rural subsistence farming to urban industrial and technology jobs.
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may be the most consequential economic event in centuries.

Yet this story is largely ignored in the U.S. and in much of Europe. We hear about a few projects here and there, but we don’t understand the extent.

Venture Capital Investment
On an export dollar per population, China out-exports the U.S. at $2,263 billion dollars. Still, the U.S. is second, Germany comes in third at $1,448 billion, and the Netherlands with a population of only 17 million people exports at $652 billion.

Beijing sees this same data and realizes its leadership is not guaranteed. China needs to develop its own technology and through a combination of government edicts and profit-seeking,
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Beijing is forcing money into venture capital at an astonishing pace.

Peter Diamandis toted up
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last month.

By end of 2017, 3,418 Chinese VC funds were launched within the year, raising a combined $243 billion USD or 1.61 trillion RMB.

Of the $154 billion worth of VC invested in 2017, 40 percent came from Asian (primarily Chinese) VCs. America’s share? Only 4 percentage points higher at 44 percent.

In the first three quarters of 2017, 493 state-backed funds were founded with a capital size of 114 billion USD (756.8 billion RMB).

And as of two years earlier, Chinese VC coffers had surpassed a remarkable $336.4 billion USD.

In a great push to scoop up intellectual property and drive growth in key tech sectors, China’s VC scene is booming.

As of 2016, China’s Venture Capital investment had roughly caught up to U.S. levels. Now, it is probably ahead.

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Peter Diamandis says Chinese VC firms are targeting three segments: robotics, driverless vehicles, and biotechnology.

Silicon Valley on Steroids
There’s yet one more profound development in China underway.

Financial Times recently
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Beijing plans to integrate former Western colonies Hong Kong and Macau with other nearby urban areas including Shenzhen and Guangzhou into this “Greater Bay Area.”

Already, it accounts for 12% of Chinese GDP and 37% of the country’s exports. Beijing wants the GBA to lead the nation’s innovation and economic growth.

To that end, the government is pouring infrastructure investment into the region, including a 22-mile bridge connecting Hong Kong and Macau (not cheap!) with the mainland and a new $11 billion rail link for Hong Kong. It also plans to eliminate some of the bureaucratic barriers that presently slow down commerce.

The size of this region is hard to comprehend. With nearly 70 million people and $1.5 trillion GDP, it is economically bigger than Australia or Mexico. Guangdong (the mainland China part) alone exported $670 billion in goods last year. Three of the world’s ten busiest container ports are in the region. It will be Silicon Valley on steroids.

For that matter, it could be the U.S. on steroids, at least geographically.

Growing Scientific Contribution
China has produced more scientists and engineers for decades than the West has combined. As a graphic illustration, here are the countries with the most STEM graduates:

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However, many of us had suspicions about the quality of the universities and their degrees. They couldn’t be as good as ours, could they? It turns out they are comparable and possibly even better in some areas.

A recent
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found that in 2016, roughly 24% of scientific papers had an author with a Chinese name or address. If you include Chinese-language papers, it jumps to 37%.

Looking at it another way, China has 15% of global GDP but produces more than a third of the scientific papers. It seems those university degrees are beginning to pay off in actual research.

China Has All It Needs
New York Times best-seller Matt Ridley says human progress and prosperity make the greatest leaps when “ideas have sex with each other.” This creative process happens faster and more easily when the idea-holders share proximity.

In the U.S., Silicon Valley often serves this purpose. Along with Austin, Dallas, Boston, New York and others.

China has abundant venture capital to fund research and large numbers of researchers cranking out ideas. It needs a central place for those ideas to have frequent sex with each other.

The Chinese government is aware of this. And with massive infrastructure projects like the Greater Bay Area, China is gradually building its own innovation cluster.

Economic growth is largely a numbers game: workers times productivity. China already has both ingredients and
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For now, the U.S. is still ahead, but we shouldn’t be complacent. Nothing requires the global economy to keep us in the lead, and we are not doing what we should to keep it.
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ougoah

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That's great and all but it's just one ingredient to becoming the undeniably dominant science and technology nation on the planet. Although it would seem that the infrastructure, commercial culture, and economic incentives are all there, as opposed to India for example which has been a STEM producing machine for quite a while now, with less than obvious results (partly because their finest minds leave or are headhunted to work for the West in a country that does not enforce cooperation with domestic businesses).

Another thing to consider is how efficiently the working environments and culture promotes people and makes use of their skills. We could have an army of average engineers and get nowhere impressive. Those once in a century geniuses need to be recognised, retained, and properly applied. Not by coercion but healthy incentives. Historically, so many have been lost to the US or stifled by bureaucracy.

Given all the above working, it will still take time to well and truly surpass all in nearly all areas of industry and technology but the process must be understood by now and trends indicate promise.
 
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