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gelgoog

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Neither China is far far behind in Rocket engines.
Try comparing the chamber pressure of the Chinese YF-100 with the Russian RD-180. 18 MPa vs 27 MPa.
And this is a Russian engine which is three decades old based on four decades old technology.
US Raptor engine is claimed to operate at 30-35 MPa chamber pressure.
While China has made great strides in space rocket engine performance it is still way behind the tech leaders.

after WS-15 entered in production. China is now a major player in military advance turbofan engine industry. only USA is ahead. France/UK is yet to produce 30,000 lbs thrust military engine. i m not talking about quality here. this is about industrial capacity to design and produce high thrust military turbofan engine. so in this sector China is not far behind.
WS-15 is not in service yet that we know of.

there is only 1 area in gas turbine technology, where China is probably 1 or 2 decade behind is, Commercial aircraft engines. coz China started very late. fine we accept it.
Two decades behind if not more. It can be even worse in some kinds of engines. This is supposed to end once CJ-1000 series of engines enters production but that still has not happened.

Optics, space telescopes, semiconductor tools (28nm/14nm) in these fields, China is not years/decade behind. they are rapidly closing the gap.
The world leading level is going to 3nm this year. 14nm would be like 3+ generations behind at this point if they had 14nm tools. Which they do not.
 

sunnymaxi

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Try comparing the chamber pressure of the Chinese YF-100 with the Russian RD-180. 18 MPa vs 27 MPa.
And this is a Russian engine which is three decades old based on four decades old technology.
US Raptor engine is claimed to operate at 30-35 MPa chamber pressure.
While China has made great strides in space rocket engine performance it is still way behind the tech leaders.
Russia is also sit on top in rocket engine technology. thanks to solid foundation build by USSR.

but this post is about. West vs China. i never said, China surpassed western world in rocket engine technology. but claiming that, they are far far behind in this technology is not true. incoming YF series engines are pretty solid.

WS-15 is not in service yet that we know of.
fine. but low rate initial production has begun. which is itself a big accomplishment.

Two decades behind if not more. It can be even worse in some kinds of engines. This is supposed to end once CJ-1000 series of engines enters production but that still has not happened.
agreed on this. CJ-1000 engine is pretty close to small scale production if all goes well in airborne testing.

The world leading level is going to 3nm this year. 14nm would be like 3+ generations behind at this point if they had 14nm tools. Which they do not.
i m talking about tools. China has completed 28nm de-Americanized line. and developed all kind of tools/chemicals for 28nm also EDA. and same set of tools can be used in 14nm. you also know this.

YMTC start using domestic tools for 128 layer

NAURA/AMEC developed some tools for 7nm too. one by one everything will be develop in home. west forced us to develop domestic substitute.

it means China climbing up in semiconductor supply chain very fast.
 

sunnymaxi

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The main construction task of China's
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early warning system has been completed, and final completion and acceptance is expected to be completed by the end of this year, according to the head of the China Earthquake Administration...

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sunnymaxi

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This seems impressive. but i don't know what is this. can anyone explain

China's scientists made further steps in solving the mystery of human body clock as they discovered the antenna-like primary cilium on the cell membrane of a certain kind of neuron stretches every 24 hours like a "tangible hand" to regulate our daily rhythms..

Insomniacs can be saved! Recently, Chinese scientists have made a major breakthrough in the study of the biological clock, and discovered the principle that leads to the disorder of the biological clock. Studies have shown that the biological clock is not invisible and intangible. The nerve cell cilia in the brain are like "antennas", which expand and contract once every 24 hours. Through it, the rhythm and jet lag can be adjusted. On this basis, jet lag, insomnia and other troubles are expected to be solved!


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Wuhun

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That list is ridiculous without any nuances just like many other lists posted in the thread. Take the examples of superconductors where China is supposed to be years behind.

Meanwhile China has the world's most advanced maglev train which literally means superconducting magnetic levitated train.

China has frontier quantum computers based on superconducting circuits, and all the other pathways, like photons where China has the world's most advanced photonic quantum computer, uses transistors based on superconductors. Because superconductivity is literally a quantum mechanical phenomena. Hence why superconductors are also used in quantum sensors, where China is on par with America/Japan, and in quantum systems used for quantum communication, where China leads the world.

Superconductors are the basis of powerful magnetic field system, and China has the world's most powerful magnetic field facility in Hefei
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Superconductors and high magnetic fields are the basis of magnetic confined fusion reactors, where China leads the world.
 

Strangelove

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Xie Xiaoliang is latest Chinese scientist to give up US citizenship​

  • Former Harvard professor is part of a trend of returning scientists that is putting China in race for talent lead
  • The biophysical chemist is best known for DNA breakthrough that makes it possible to sequence an individual human cell


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A prominent scientist has given up his US nationality to become a citizen of China, the latest in a growing number of Chinese researchers returning to their home country.

Xie Xiaoliang, a biophysical chemist and former professor at Harvard University, has been listed as a domestic member of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS), which did not explain Xie’s decision.

He previously was a foreign member of CAS, whose rules permit a change to domestic membership after obtaining Chinese citizenship. Xie has yet to respond to a request for comment.

Xie, who was born in China and trained in the United States, is best known for his team’s invention in 2012 of the single-cell DNA amplification method. This enables the sequencing of individual human cells in the hunt for mutations that can cause genetic diseases or cancer.

The method meant “even one mutation out of 6 billion base pairs” of DNA could be discovered, Xie said on the Peking University website in 2018.

Meanwhile, Sun Licheng, a scientist from Sweden, has also transferred to domestic membership of the academy, according to the CAS website. He returned to China to become a chair of chemistry at Westlake University in April 2020.

Sun, a former professor in molecular electronics at the KTH Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm, was elected as a distinguished professor of the Swedish Research Council in 2017.

These are not the only examples of CAS foreign members dropping their overseas citizenship to become domestic members.
In 2017, two eminent scientists – including 1957 Nobel physics laureate Yang Chen-ning – renounced their US citizenship to switch to domestic membership of the academy.

The US has been losing talent to its Asian competitor at an increasing rate since former president Donald Trump launched the China Initiative in 2018 to combat suspected Chinese theft of American secrets and technology.

A joint study last year by Princeton, Harvard and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found more than 1,400 US-based ethnic Chinese scientists changed their academic affiliation from American to Chinese institutions in 2021 – a 22 per cent increase on the previous year.

According to data published in April by the Organisation for Economic Co operation and Development, the US lost 896 scientific authors in 2021, while China picked up 3,108.

The findings are in stark contrast to 2015, when traffic was reversed, with a gain of 2,920 scientists for the US and a loss of 336 to China.
The OECD’s tracking is based on changes in scientists’ institutional affiliations. An inflow is counted when an author previously affiliated in one country is first seen to be affiliated to an institution in another.

According to the OECD’s latest data, the US is not only losing out to China in the race for scientific talent, with the European Union, Canada and Germany also ahead.

Xie received his PhD in physical chemistry from UC San Diego in 1990 and worked at Pacific Northwest National Laboratory and Harvard University for more than two decades.

He was the first tenured professor at Harvard University among the cohort of scholars from mainland China who travelled to the US after the country’s economic reform and opening up in 1978.

Xie, who previously was a member of the United States National Academy of Sciences and National Academy of Medicine, became a visiting professor at Peking University in 2001.

In 2009, he was persuaded to return full-time to Peking University by the leading neurologist Rao Yi, then dean of the university’s school of life sciences, Xie said on the university website.

Rao, now president of the Capital Medical University in Beijing, gave up his own US citizenship and returned to China in 2007, after studying and working in the United States for more than two decades.

Xie said that, after settling down in the US, every time he returned to China he was astonished and moved by its tremendous progress.
“When I returned to Beijing to watch the 2008 Olympics, I was heartened by the Chinese team winning the most gold medals, but I knew we have a long way to claiming first place in the realm of science,” he wrote.

Xie became a full-time professor at Peking University in 2018 and head of the sciences faculty the following year.
 

mossen

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Sun Licheng, a scientist from Sweden, has also transferred to domestic membership of the academy, according to the CAS website
I looked up his page on KTH. This is what his research group looked like:

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I wonder how much of Western scientific output is carried out by East Asians. I suspect it is a lot. This is why targeting and harassing Chinese scientists is so stupid and self-defeating.
 

Strangelove

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I looked up his page on KTH. This is what his research group looked like:

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I wonder how much of Western scientific output is carried out by East Asians. I suspect it is a lot. This is why targeting and harassing Chinese scientists is so stupid and self-defeating.

The US/western narrative is that Chinese are there only to steal knowledge, IP and tech... so in that photo obviously the 4 white folks are the real brains, the inventors, the geniuses, while the 12 Chinese (including the professor himself) are there to steal the honest hard work of the 4 white people.
 

sunnymaxi

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I looked up his page on KTH. This is what his research group looked like:

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I wonder how much of Western scientific output is carried out by East Asians. I suspect it is a lot. This is why targeting and harassing Chinese scientists is so stupid and self-defeating.
CPC is very thankful to US government to start this initiative. LOOL

this is just a reported news on media. Chinese talent returning to motherland are in thousands if we count last decade. and this process has accelerate after 2018. more and more Chinese talent coming back. China have now superior research facilities to accommodate.
 
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