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foofy

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The fact that a country the size and population of Germany has a lead over China in mechanical exports up until this year shows how comparatively backwards China has been in the previous decades.

china mechanical production is equal to usa ,german,japan and italy combined .

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对于中国成为“新出口冠军”,VDMA外贸主管乌尔里希·阿克曼(Ulrich Ackermann)表示,这并不令人惊讶。“中国多年来一直是世界上最大的机械制造商,”阿克曼说,事实上,中国去年9240亿欧元的机械设备总销售额,几乎等于美国、德国、日本和意大利的总和,“因此,中国成为对外机械贸易的领跑者只是时间问题。”
 

krautmeister

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The fact that a country the size and population of Germany has a lead over China in mechanical exports up until this year shows how comparatively backwards China has been in the previous decades.
Keep in mind that within the EU common market of around 450 million population, Germany is the undisputed machinery champion who dominates sales within that region. All their EU sales are registered as exports while China's own internal in-country market sales are obviously excluded from the export total. Combine that with the fact that China generally sells at a price discount relative to German sales and it distorts the apparent relative strength of China's machinery sector. I'm not dismissing Germany's exceptional performance. Just pointing out that it's not as overwhelming as it might appear on the surface.
 

sndef888

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Couple months ago Xinhua and SCMP reported that China had a "working prototype" for a 620kmh maglev train using high temperature superconductors, but the video did not show it in operation, only a very low speed, rudimentary example

Does anyone know how far along this prototype is? Is it possible to see a line in operation before 2030 (or does China even plan to use maglevs)?
 

krautmeister

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Couple months ago Xinhua and SCMP reported that China had a "working prototype" for a 620kmh maglev train using high temperature superconductors, but the video did not show it in operation, only a very low speed, rudimentary example

Does anyone know how far along this prototype is? Does China even plan to build maglevs?
There are approved plans for at least 2 high-speed maglev lines between Guangzhou-Shenzhen and Shanghai-Hangzhou.

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There is also discussions for reserving transport corridors for a Beijing-Guangzhou and Shanghai-Guangzhou high-speed maglev line that are not yet officially confirmed.

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krautmeister

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Jesus christ. Even the supposed more neutral Reuters and AP are getting worse and worse when it comes to fearmongering about China

Clicks are more important than journalistic integrity these days, it seems
Reuters, AP, AFP, etc. have been sh*t stirring anti-China fake news for quite a while already. They are actually the source of a large portion of anti-China biased "news" because almost all smaller outlets stories reference them as their sources.
 

sndef888

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There are approved plans for at least 2 high-speed maglev lines between Guangzhou-Shenzhen and Shanghai-Hangzhou.

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There is also discussions for reserving transport corridors for a Beijing-Guangzhou and Shanghai-Guangzhou high-speed maglev line that are not yet officially confirmed.

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A Beijing-Hong Kong line + Shanghai-Beijing line + Shanghai-Wuhan line would connect almost all the largest cities

Still, it will depend on whether the researchers manage to lower the costs of maglev using high temperature superconductors and other stuff. Japan's 200+ km line costs an insane $64 billion
 
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krautmeister

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A Beijing-Hong Kong line + Shanghai-Beijing line + Shanghai-Wuhan line would connect almost all the largest cities

Still, it will depend on whether the researchers manage to lower the costs of maglev using high temperature superconductors and other stuff. Japan's 200+ km line costs an insane $64 billion
China's high-speed maglev uses liquid nitrogen for their superconductors. Japan uses liquid helium, which explains the large discrepancy between the much lower cost of the China high-speed maglev and Japan's.
 

weig2000

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There are approved plans for at least 2 high-speed maglev lines between Guangzhou-Shenzhen and Shanghai-Hangzhou.

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There is also discussions for reserving transport corridors for a Beijing-Guangzhou and Shanghai-Guangzhou high-speed maglev line that are not yet officially confirmed.

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The current conventional high-speed rail largely functions as public utilities now, which makes sense.

The high-speed maglev should really only be built on the commercially viable basis, which means that probably only a few corridors in the country would meet the profitability requirements including the above lines.
 

krautmeister

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The current conventional high-speed rail largely functions as public utilities now, which makes sense.

The high-speed maglev should really only be built on the commercially viable basis, which means that probably only a few corridors in the country would meet the profitability requirements including the above lines.
The current goal is for the 1st regional high speed maglev in China to be completed sometime after 2026, and most likely extended to link the large delta regions of Shanghai, Guangzhou and Beijing afterwards. If this actually happens, I am curious what this will do to China's airline business, let alone the C919 and CR929. The C919 might just evolve into a mostly export item while the CR929 becomes China's mainline carrier.
 
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