New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

There's also a lack of trust for southern brands/EVs in the dongbei region (mostly among the older generation from what I've personally observed there) and since it was the birthplace of China's auto industry they tend to prefer ICE vehicles. There's also some resentment from feeling being left behind compared to the south, economic/demographics issues, and their charging infrastructure is not as good as the south's. They still do have quite a bit of EVs though, at least in the bigger cities, like most ride-hailing cars there are Hongqi E-Qm5s.

SanWenYu said:

EVs are very common in Norway. 90% of new car sold are EVs there. It seems that the Norwegians have learned how to use EVs properly in cold winters. Perhaps the northern mainlanders can do it as well?

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Norway (and all of Europe) benefits from the warming effects of the Gulf Stream and is much warmer than Northern China despite being at higher latitude.

January mean daily minimum temperatures for Oslo, Norway and various northern Chinese cities

zbb said:

Norway (and all of Europe) benefits from the warming effects of the Gulf Stream and is much warmer than Northern China despite being at higher latitude.

January mean daily minimum temperatures for Oslo, Norway and various northern Chinese cities

Oslo -4.7C​

Lanzhou −8.4C​

Taiyuan -10.2C​

Xining −14.6C​

Hohhot −15.3C​

Urumqi −15.7C​

Shenyang -17.0C​

Changchun −18.6C​

Harbin -22.4C​

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Darn the winter in Harbin is brutal.

tphuang said:

PHEVs don't have range anxiety issues. I saw no shortage of PHEVs in Beijing.

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Beijing is north of ancient China (aka central plains), not of PRC. Now it's more of upper end of middle, hidden behind mountains from Mongolian plateau.

Beijing normally barely gets a couple of -15 C nights a year, and even that isn't a guarantee. It's cold only when compared to South. Winter average is above zero(and even cold days are like-3...5C; they feel shitty, sure, but batteries don't feel, every corner has a charger)

Problem is not Beijing(where ev adoption goes up smoothly enough), problem is places where getting stuck in -40 C and blizzard, or in mountains, half way between cities, is a potential death sentence.

Climate in northern regions isn't that different from Russian one across the border: as I saw, people in North East, just like Russians, make "stroganina" outside; that's a magnificent dish, but conditions that make it a thing come with downsides - no one wants to become frozen fish chips. People aren't anxious for nothing...

SanWenYu said:

Darn the winter in Harbin is brutal.

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There's a joke going around on social media lately: Northerners suggest that Southerners writing apocalyptic survival novels should do some research: minus 30 degrees isn't the end of the world!

bsdnf said:

There's a joke going around on social media lately: Northerners suggest that Southerners writing apocalyptic survival novels should do some research: minus 30 degrees isn't the end of the world!

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East Siberian -30(and 40 even) are in fact quite comfortable (wear adequate clothes, don't lick metal fences and you'll be alright), I'd say way more so than moderate minus in Tianjin or in Shandong.
But batteries don't care about how it feels, -40 c is -40 c.

Jeez Xiaomi, you've got a lot to explain....

And RIP the guy inside too...