New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

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Facm337

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Any thoughts on why Toyota and Honda don't export more of their China-made EVs to overseas markets? Eg the Toyota bZ3/5/7 or the Honda Ye/Lingxi? I feel like those models aren't going to be competitive in the Chinese market, but would sell reasonably abroad in places like Australia (where I live) where they have long established presence and can leverage their reputation + dealer networks.

As an example, the Chinese made Kia EV5 is selling really well here in Australia so far (1.5k units in 2025 YTD, 4th behind the two Tesla and the MG4), and I believe Mazda will plan to do the same with the EZ-6/EX-60.
 
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supersnoop

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Facm337 said:
Any thoughts on why Toyota and Honda don't export more of their China-made EVs to overseas markets? Eg the Toyota bZ3/5/7 or the Honda Ye/Lingxi? I feel like those models aren't going to be competitive in the Chinese market, but would sell reasonably abroad in places like Australia (where I live) where they have long established presence and can leverage their reputation + dealer networks.

As an example, the Chinese made Kia EV5 is selling really well here in Australia so far (1.5k units in 2025 YTD, 4th behind the two Tesla and the MG4), and I believe Mazda will plan to do the same with the EZ-6/EX-60.
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Most likely they lack the ability to sustain the supply chain outside of China. No one will be happy waiting 2 months for a part, since these models are not sharing too many internals with other models outside of China.

On the other hand, they don't want to build these Chinese models outside of China because they don't control the IP fully, and would probably be less profitable.
 
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Facm337 said:
Any thoughts on why Toyota and Honda don't export more of their China-made EVs to overseas markets? Eg the Toyota bZ3/5/7 or the Honda Ye/Lingxi? I feel like those models aren't going to be competitive in the Chinese market, but would sell reasonably abroad in places like Australia (where I live) where they have long established presence and can leverage their reputation + dealer networks.

As an example, the Chinese made Kia EV5 is selling really well here in Australia so far (1.5k units in 2025 YTD, 4th behind the two Tesla and the MG4), and I believe Mazda will plan to do the same with the EZ-6/EX-60.
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Maybe they don't want joint venture Toyotas competing with normal Toyotas. Thats probably why they are building a new Lexus line in China completely owned by themselves.
 
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