Natural disasters thread


siegecrossbow

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AFAIK official death count is 20-30, however as time passes we might see it official rising to 1000+ deaths.

With such a sudden and heavy flood the deaths must be on the thousands (if not more).

If is fifty now. The primary source of casualty may be a 4km long tunnel in Zhengzhou that was completely inundated. They still haven’t drained it yet so expect confirmed deaths to rise.
 

Kaine

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A very interesting in-depth article on the Zhengzhou's anti-flooding measures. It was actually selected to participate in a nation pilot of building "sponge" cities in order to reduce flooding.

The city gov actually invested 55 billion yuan on this. Experts who were asked on the article said that even if the city managed to build the fully planned infrastructure improvements, it would at most handle 50-100 year event rain (very impressive actually).

The 1000(?) year rain that happened now is simply impossible for humans to prevent or control with our current ability.


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Hendrik_2000

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What a mess need to improve drainage in Zhengzhou But to be fair no one can be prepared for once in thousand year storm
China is prone for natural disaster, earth quake, flood, locust, dust bowl, sand storm you named it. At least now they have strong central government that can provide assistance.

People's Liberation Army soldiers and police forces have been fully mobilized and deployed to join and assist restoration and reconstruction tasks in flood-battered Zhengzhou City in central China's Henan Province on Friday, undertaking missions of cleaning up streets and disinfecting flooded areas, among a host of other arduous works. The provincial capital has rolled out comprehensive reconstruction and repairs projects involving resumption of civil facilities, roads and bridges, houses renovation as well as power and water supply alongside guarantees for food and daily needs.

Flooding has waned and subsided in the streets of Zhengzhou, leaving messy and muddy scenes everywhere which can easily cause diseases. The local authorities and troops have dispatched several decontamination units to clean up and disinfect the urban areas. About 5,000 of soldiers of the People's Liberation Army (PLA), armed police forces, and militia reservists have been deployed in the main urban area of Zhengzhou to restore the order of production and normal life. This also means that the current overall task has shifted from emergency rescue to post-disaster recovery and reconstruction. Soldiers and officers from the 83rd Group Army of PLA, Armed Police Forces, PLA Rocket Force and fire fighting forces worked together to help restore the order in the seriously affected Zhengzhou Fuwai Central China Cardiovascular Hospital.

After more than 10 hours of continuous fighting, the water level in the ponding hospital square dropped by 40 centimeters. The soldiers have transported more than 20 tons of various rescue materials, cleaned up and disinfected more than 100 houses. More than 2,400 soldiers from the 83rd Group Army will carry out cleaning up work in four areas along the subway lines and over 1,000 officers of Armed Police Forces will go to 16 places to clean up subway stations. More than 1,000 militia reservists will carry out road cleaning in the communities and trails to help the residents restore normal life.

Chinese soldiers and police help clean up the streets in Zhengzhou | 中國士兵和警察在鄭州幫助清理街道​


 

siegecrossbow

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What a mess need to improve drainage in Zhengzhou But to be fair no one can prepare for once in thousand year storm
China is prone for natural disaster, earth quake, flood, locust, dust bowl, sand storm you named it. At least now they have storm central government that can provide assistance.

People's Liberation Army soldiers and police forces have been fully mobilized and deployed to join and assist restoration and reconstruction tasks in flood-battered Zhengzhou City in central China's Henan Province on Friday, undertaking missions of cleaning up streets and disinfecting flooded areas, among a host of other arduous works. The provincial capital has rolled out comprehensive reconstruction and repairs projects involving resumption of civil facilities, roads and bridges, houses renovation as well as power and water supply alongside guarantees for food and daily needs.

Flooding has waned and subsided in the streets of Zhengzhou, leaving messy and muddy scenes everywhere which can easily cause diseases. The local authorities and troops have dispatched several decontamination units to clean up and disinfect the urban areas. About 5,000 of soldiers of the People's Liberation Army (PLA), armed police forces, and militia reservists have been deployed in the main urban area of Zhengzhou to restore the order of production and normal life. This also means that the current overall task has shifted from emergency rescue to post-disaster recovery and reconstruction. Soldiers and officers from the 83rd Group Army of PLA, Armed Police Forces, PLA Rocket Force and fire fighting forces worked together to help restore the order in the seriously affected Zhengzhou Fuwai Central China Cardiovascular Hospital.

After more than 10 hours of continuous fighting, the water level in the ponding hospital square dropped by 40 centimeters. The soldiers have transported more than 20 tons of various rescue materials, cleaned up and disinfected more than 100 houses. More than 2,400 soldiers from the 83rd Group Army will carry out cleaning up work in four areas along the subway lines and over 1,000 officers of Armed Police Forces will go to 16 places to clean up subway stations. More than 1,000 militia reservists will carry out road cleaning in the communities and trails to help the residents restore normal life.

Chinese soldiers and police help clean up the streets in Zhengzhou | 中國士兵和警察在鄭州幫助清理街道​


The problem is not with infrastructure but with poor handling when it was obvious that rain wa coming down hard. They should’ve been alerting people on TV/cellphones or at the minimum, have shut down public transports/closed down roads. Here in Texas we have periodically flash flooding alerts on our phones whenever rain is coming down hard. Most of the time it doesn’t amount to anything but people are less likely to get hurt if something bad did happen.

Heck even compare Zhengzhou’s handling with one of the nearby Henan villages. The secretary is a recent transplant from one of the south eastern villages and got 100 buses to relocate everyone from the village a day before the rain hit. People were gripping about how it was unnecessary till their village got inundated.
 

Hendrik_2000

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The problem is not with infrastructure but with poor handling when it was obvious that rain wa coming down hard. They should’ve been alerting people on TV/cellphones or at the minimum, have shut down public transports/closed down roads. Here in Texas we have periodically flash flooding alerts on our phones whenever rain is coming down hard. Most of the time it doesn’t amount to anything but people are less likely to get hurt if something bad did happen.

Heck even compare Zhengzhou’s handling with one of the nearby Henan villages. The secretary is a recent transplant from one of the south eastern villages and got 100 buses to relocate everyone from the village a day before the rain hit. People were gripping about how it was unnecessary till their village got inundated.
But that is like comparing apple and orange. Texas, Louisiana, and Alabama is on the path of hurricane alley. So naturally people there are well prepared But Zhengzhou lay inland in Henan province maybe they get inundated by Huanghe once in a while . But no flash flood . The same thing happened in Texas no one can foreseen once in century cold front Though they have weather forecast but it just don't register in their mind the destruction brought by deep freeze. No one can prepare ALL the time. Even in texas every rain flood you will get people get killed in Highway exit because in TExas they built highway cheap Instead of bridge overpass they dug the ground for over pass and when it rain it got flooded!. the same with exit ramp!
 
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