Mobs attack XinJiang, PRC police station

Agreed. Guys we are talking about screening threats here, so yes, Chinese security personnels are THAT seasoned to "grade" you (anyone) into "looks OK, pending further survey" category, in that few dozen seconds of interaction.

In fact, as long as you pack everything according to their "specification" (rules), you can pack a 菜刀 kitchen knife into your luggage, boarding a green train (cheap train), as I mentioned, all walks of life from China brought all kinds of exotic stuff with them to boarding a train.

The difference between a naive yet stubborn peasant who brought some "unsafe" belongings, a pocket picker who brought some normal nail knives, and a wanted a-hole who brought nothing but loads of clothes, are:

1. National Public Security updating informations (including wanted order, real-time instructions, highly consolidated minutes of meeting on "who to look after this time"...)

2. Tips from all walks of sources.

3. Master-leads-the-way, time-tested, first and 2nd handed experiences of "interacting" with all walks of life, by the officers, for the officers.

Those who escaped the transportation security, would always still faces loads of other means of security measures, across all ranks of towns, throughout all spectrum of life style, in all necessary means, by all sorts of uniformed officers or un-uniformed patriots.

But seriously, aren't we all?

There are reports of 8 dead and 28 injured as a result of knife attacks in further violence in Xinjiang.

Seven people died and 28 others were injured in China's restive Xinjiang when knife-wielding attackers stabbed bystanders in a crowd, state media said Sunday, in the region's latest bout of unrest, AFP reported.
One of the attackers was later killed in the violence that erupted Saturday night in Kasghar city and another was detained, Tianshannet.com, a website operated by the regional government, said.

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There are reports of 8 dead and 28 injured as a result of knife attacks in further violence in Xinjiang.

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More from the same people I suppose. These people don't seem to learn, that these sorts of attacks will NEVER garner the real supports from the domestic audience they truly wanted to push on their movement. Not only none of the domestic audiences are gonna sympathize with their ways, they are now gonna distance themselves even further away from their causes more, because their ways and actions symbolize nothing but terror, and i don't think any real minds will support people to deliver their cause by wielding knives other than the ones in the West. Those ignorants will try and argue "it's because these people are oppressed by the government", but they just don't seemed to get that being "oppressed" won't/can't explain the action of running around stabbing people in the streets.

I think China should pull a you're with us or with the terrorists on the moderate public for once. Organise an anti violence march, get the moderate Uyghurs to denounce the act.

no_name said:

I think China should pull a you're with us or with the terrorists on the moderate public for once. Organise an anti violence march, get the moderate Uyghurs to denounce the act.

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no need to draw publicity bout these things, especially since it's quite given no one supports them within china anyways

If there is credible evidence that these attacks are getting support or even organised by people living outside China, I think China should set up a special task force to go
get them.

This does not necessarily mean launching US style publicity shows like the Osama raid or drone attacks.

A surveillance team could locate the ringleaders and the information passed on to local authorities to pick them up if the governments are friendly. If they are not, I doubt China will be as crass as to try and nab or kill these guys while they are in a foreign country. But even if they just watch these people and monitor their communications and contacts, they should be able to get a lot of names and faces of suspects that can be picked up as soon as they enter China or a friendly country.

China needs to stop reacting and proactively go after these guys to have any hope of stopping further attacks.

plawolf said:

If there is credible evidence that these attacks are getting support or even organised by people living outside China, I think China should set up a special task force to go
get them.

This does not necessarily mean launching US style publicity shows like the Osama raid or drone attacks.

A surveillance team could locate the ringleaders and the information passed on to local authorities to pick them up if the governments are friendly. If they are not, I doubt China will be as crass as to try and nab or kill these guys while they are in a foreign country. But even if they just watch these people and monitor their communications and contacts, they should be able to get a lot of names and faces of suspects that can be picked up as soon as they enter China or a friendly country.

China needs to stop reacting and proactively go after these guys to have any hope of stopping further attacks.

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What if they live not in chaotic 3rd world countries but in US or Europe?

nosh said:

What if they live not in chaotic 3rd world countries but in US or Europe?

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Expose them to the hundreds of millions of Chinese netizens to keep an eye on them.

nosh said:

What if they live not in chaotic 3rd world countries but in US or Europe?

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Well we can drop the charade as it is crystal clear that some if not most of the top leaders, organisers and cheerleaders of these terrorists live with impunity and not a little celebrity status in the US and Western Europe, and that is why killing them or nabbing them would be an extremely high risk exercise.

Just monitoring them is a different matter though, and anyone who is connected to these people can then be identified, tracked, and picked up/eliminated when they try to enter China or a friendly country that could take them into custody for China.

These people are only a threat because they are funnelling funds and resources to terrorists on the ground, but in order to launch attacks in China, the funds, equipment or personnel need to move into China at some point. It is no easy task, but if they trace the funds/ people all the way to China, the Chinese authorities can then do what they like to these guys after they enter Chinese jurisdiction.

This will be expensive and hard to do, but it will be a lot easier to track and stop attacks this way then waiting to try and pick up clues just from inside China.

The mid-level commanders and organisers are probably located in some of the central Asian republics, but these lot are as much of a problem and threat to many of those governments as they are to China, if not more so. Many of these governments would thus have no problems at all in picking up suspects or even taking them out, and these are the 'friendly countries' I had in mind.

If you cut the grunts off from support and organisation from the US/Europe and then hit their local commanders and contacts in neighbouring countries, then you have already very effectively neutralise them.

plawolf said:

Well we can drop the charade as it is crystal clear that some if not most of the top leaders, organisers and cheerleaders of these terrorists live with impunity and not a little celebrity status in the US and Western Europe, and that is why killing them or nabbing them would be an extremely high risk exercise.

Just monitoring them is a different matter though, and anyone who is connected to these people can then be identified, tracked, and picked up/eliminated when they try to enter China or a friendly country that could take them into custody for China.

These people are only a threat because they are funnelling funds and resources to terrorists on the ground, but in order to launch attacks in China, the funds, equipment or personnel need to move into China at some point. It is no easy task, but if they trace the funds/ people all the way to China, the Chinese authorities can then do what they like to these guys after they enter Chinese jurisdiction.

This will be expensive and hard to do, but it will be a lot easier to track and stop attacks this way then waiting to try and pick up clues just from inside China.

The mid-level commanders and organisers are probably located in some of the central Asian republics, but these lot are as much of a problem and threat to many of those governments as they are to China, if not more so. Many of these governments would thus have no problems at all in picking up suspects or even taking them out, and these are the 'friendly countries' I had in mind.

If you cut the grunts off from support and organisation from the US/Europe and then hit their local commanders and contacts in neighbouring countries, then you have already very effectively neutralise them.

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They'd be nothing more than some guy living off the government funds, and without any uses to the governments themselves by then.