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taxiya

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China-Israel relations have ranged from fair to good (Lavi, A50I, etc) in the last few decades. It's never been bad. I think China will at least ensure Israel isn't screwed over in China's Middle East diplomacy.
That really depends on what is "screwed". In China's view, Israel has the right of existence within its border according to UN partition plan, so are the Palestinian Arabs. The Israeli government seems to believe that they deserve much more than what UN granted it. So without Israeli government changing their attitude they are certainly "screwed", but that is not how China sees it.
 

taxiya

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actually i think China will sacrifice israel because it is the common-denominator in the muslim world. you want the muslim to stop fighting each other? direct them to their common enemy the israelis.
It is scary that you are proposing China to do the same thing as Suharto did to ethnic Chinese in Indonesia, the same thing that US is doing to Chinese Americans right now, the same thing that Nazi did to the Jewish Germans.

PRC and Communist are fighting injustice, not a people.
 

baykalov

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The Washington Post: U.S. eavesdropped on U.N. secretary general, leaks reveal

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The United States eavesdropped on United Nations Secretary General António Guterres’s conversations with other U.N. officials, according to four classified reports obtained by The Washington Post.

The documents, two of which haven’t been previously reported, summarize intercepted conversations that shed new light on Guterres’s interactions with top U.N. officials and world leaders, including detailing what they describe as his “outrage” over being denied a visit to a war-torn region in Ethiopia and frustrations toward Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

The reports on Guterres appear to contain the secretary general’s personal conversations with aides regarding diplomatic encounters. They indicate that the United States relied on spying powers granted under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) to gather the intercepts.

The Guterres documents, which appear to mix direct quotes from the secretary general and his aides with analysis from intelligence officials about his emotions, underscore some of the secretary general’s most tense recent diplomatic efforts.

One document portrays him as “not happy about” about the possibility of traveling to Kyiv, when the Ukraine government said Zelensky wanted to meet with him personally. The report does not identify the reason for the secretary general’s unhappiness, but a longtime U.N. diplomat noted that Guterres, 73, travels commercially and had been on the road for weeks, and the trip to Ukraine required another long flight, followed by an 11-hour drive to the capital. “It’s not as if he’s on his own private plane where he can sleep,” said the diplomat, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal conversations.

Another document reported that following Guterres’ March 8 private meeting with Zelensky and a joint news conference, the secretary general reported to his spokesman, Stéphane Dujarric, that he was “really pissed off” about a surprise public ceremony in honor of International Women’s Day during the visit.

Aides later said Zelensky had sprung the event — which included the presentation of medals to uniformed soldiers — on Guterres without warning and later posted photographs and videos of the event that implied the secretary general was congratulating military personnel on one side of the Russia-Ukraine war. Guterres has repeatedly condemned Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as a violation of the U.N. Charter and international law. “The sovereignty, unity and territorial integrity of Ukraine must be upheld within its internationally recognized borders,” he said at his news conference with Zelensky in Kyiv. The document says only that Guterres “emphasized that he made a point of not smiling the entire time.”

Guterres told Dujarric that he went to Ukraine to help, but the Ukrainians “do everything to liquidate us,” according to the apparently intercepted conversation in the report.

Dujarric said Friday in an interview with The Post that Guterres “was indeed unpleasantly surprised that a medal ceremony was added, without consultation, at the end of his very productive meeting in Kyiv with Ukrainian leaders. However, he denies categorically using the term ‘liquidate.’”

Despite Guterres’ condemnation of the Russian invasion, another document, which was previously reported by the BBC, indicates that the United States believed Guterres was undercutting international campaigns to hold Russia accountable for the war.

The new revelations about surveillance at the United Nations fit into a long history of snooping on the world body.

Amid revelations that the NSA had eavesdropped on allied leaders — including German Chancellor Angela Merkel and U.N. diplomats — President Barack Obama in 2013 ordered the agency to stop the practice. At the time, a senior Obama administration official told Reuters that “the United States is not conducting electronic surveillance targeting the United Nations headquarters in New York.”

Years earlier, in 2005, Britain reportedly bugged the office of U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan.

And U.S. intelligence infiltrated U.N. arms control teams in Iraq to spy on that nation’s military for three years, using both intelligence agencies and espionage equipment for the snooping, The Post reported in 1999.

United Nations officials vocally protested some of those incidents at the time, saying the U.S. government and allies had violated international agreements.

“I don’t think anyone here in this organization believes that any of our communications are 100 percent secure” from the United States or other members, the diplomat said. “The fact that those member states that have the ability to spy or listen in on private conversations at the U.N. do so is not surprising, but it’s frankly deeply annoying."
 

TK3600

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Nice.... a ban on rare earths please.


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China reveals new details of Raytheon, Lockheed sanctions​

China has revealed new details of sanctions it previously announced against two U.S. weapons manufacturers, including a ban on Chinese companies doing business with them

By HUIZHONG WU Associated Press April 18, 2023, 10:55 PM

TAIPEI, Taiwan -- China revealed new details of sanctions it previously announced against two U.S. weapons manufacturers Tuesday, including a ban on Chinese companies doing business with them.

China imposed trade and investment sanctions in February on Lockheed Martin and Raytheon Technologies Corp.’s Raytheon Missiles & Defense for supplying weapons to Taiwan, the self-governed island claimed by
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China's Ministry of Commerce said in a statement late Tuesday that the sanctions include a ban on exports and imports by the two companies from and to China “to prevent Chinese products from being used in their military business."

It added that Chinese companies should “strengthen their due diligence and compliance system construction to verify transaction information” and should not knowingly conduct business with the two companies while importing, exporting or transporting products.

It wasn’t clear what immediate impact the penalties might have, but the restrictions on imports and exports could hurt the two companies. The United States bars most sales of weapons-related technology to China, but some military contractors also have civilian businesses in aerospace and other markets.

Last September, Raytheon Missiles and Defense was awarded a $412 million contract to upgrade Taiwanese military radar as part of a $1.1 billion package of U.S. arms sales to the island.

Taiwan buys the majority of its weapons from the U.S., which is its biggest unofficial ally. In recent years, China has frequently sent fighter jets and warships toward the island, surrounding it at different times in a campaign of military pressure and intimidation.

The sanctions also prohibit the senior executives of both companies from traveling to China or working there. They listed Lockheed Martin CEO James Donald Taiclet, COO Frank Andrew St. John and CFO Jesus Malave, and President Wesley D. Kremer and Vice Presidents Agnes Soeder and Chander Nijhon from Raytheon Missiles & Defense.
Nice. Lock Mart is not selling to China and now they have excuse to charge more. China can have American government pay more. Trully a classic Chinese win win cooperation.
 
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vincent

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Honestly, some of these "chinese nationals" that out right steal or spy for the chinse gov likely already polluted the prospect of "chinese" working in some science and tech field. "Chinese" will lose that model-moniry-shield and would just be treated like every other "brown" person in America.
I don’t understand how people gave your blatantly racist and self-hating post a thumbs up.
 

luosifen

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Venezuela and China Cooperate to Train Scientists​



Published 18 April 2023

China also invited the South American nation to participate in the International Research Station.

On Tuesday, Venezuela agreed with China to reinforce the training program for scientists and researchers in the technological area.

The Science and Technology Minister Gabriela Jimenez met in Caracas with representatives of China to review and expand the links of "bilateral cooperation in space matters", a framework signed in January 2005.

The delegations "agreed to strengthen the training and human exchange program, to continue training Venezuelans in the scientific and technological area," the Bolivarian authorities said, noting that Venezuela was invited to join the Chinese lunar and space exploration.

China invited the South American nation to participate in the International Research Station (ILRS), a project of the Chinese space program, which has reached milestones such as the successful landing of a probe on the moon. the far side of the Moon in January 2019.



The ILRS, a project jointly proposed by China and Russia, is expected to be operational in 2035. It will serve to study the evolution of the Moon.

"These space cooperation agreements need to be renewed and expanded for the new times and the new challenges that are presented today," said Minister Jimenez.

During the meeting with the Chinese representatives, the Venezuelan government pointed out the importance of developing programs to promote interest in space and science in children.

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Serb

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They still are. Give it another 10 years or so and they won't though.
Also the metric human population is irrelevant. Otherwise the great India would claim that they are the most powerful country..

Who is powerful or not, is about economy military, tech, HDI etc. Its a national comprehensive power ranking

It is just that US usually can't use 100% of the American Empire's/Collective West's comprehensive power against their enemies. And even if they could, they do it very slowly because they are internally divided democracies/bureaucracies.

We have literally seen this from Macron's visit to China, then how slow the implementation of those US chip sanctions are. How innefective the Huawei ban was in the whole West, etc.

Yes, they've been more effective on sanctions against Russia, but Russia is directly bordering the EU for example and is less economically important than China.

I think China is already above the US alone technologically and economically, and that influence the US has over the whole Collective West can't be used on China by large.

America is only ahead in global millitary presence, but that doesn't matter when the war would be fought around Taiwan, 100km distant from China, and 7500km distant from the US.

Not to mention that the US is old and sick empire, losing Taiwan could cause domino effect and make them collapse from further dollar weakening, their economy collapsing, and their divided population starting a civil war and secessions.

I personally think the time has come for China to reclaim Taiwan and to collapse the US around 2027.
 
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