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Serb

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Whether its Japanese or American Cars, American iphone or French perfume and handbags.

When a Hong Konger or Taiwanese looks at the world, they see a world where the western universities are the top ones,


Are you trolling dude? "American iPhone" that doesn't get made in America at all, the country that Apple avoids paying corporate taxes to?

Apple is a global corporation, and China has way more benefits from Apple than the US, including more wages, GDP boost, supply chain, etc.

America is I don't know how many times behind Chinese cars in terms of production, Regarding Japan, China is overtaking them too this year.


China outnumbers the U.S. for the first time in this ranking of the world’s ‘best’ universities​

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Hong Kongers and Taiwanese look up to the west and consider themselves atleast semi-western. So, China cannot be the country they look up to while the overwhelming image of China remains poorly educated laborers working in factories for the western consumer.

So, Chinese Cars, TVs, Laptops, Phones and Chinese fashion will have to be equal to the west in terms of popularity around the world. That will prove that Chinese are not inferior to the west, but equal to the west and thus can be a role model for Hong Kong and Taiwanese.


China already surpassed the West in terms of high-tech production. All those Western brands you see are made in China + Chinese own brands are rapidly catching up and getting market share all around the world.
 

Serb

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Moreover, the kind of Jobs that Hong Kongers or Westerners do are what is considered as superior white collar jobs. They work as lawyers, managers, scientists, designers while most Chinese are factory workers. So, it is no wonder they consider themselves to be richer and superior in every way.

Westerns could afford to work those kinds of service-based jobs because they can print money out of thin air, give it to their citizens to spend, and live off of that, they don't need to have real industrial and export-oriented economies like China. They don't need to sweat and work hard for now.

I mean just turn on your common sense, how could the US survive and thrive with all of those trillions of fiscal and trade deficits on yearly basis? Because they are a giant bubble and print money out of thin air to cover all those deficits. China isn't like that, China is a real deal kind of economy.

But there is the question of how that could last, judging from the current situation over there, I would say for a few more years at most. As soon as the rest of the world starts dumping the dollar and euro, their economies would collapse and they would get hyperinflations.

Regarding science, since you mentioned it too:


China leads the US in the research of 37 out of 44 critical technologies, claims think tank​

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China overtakes the US in scientific research output​


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tamsen_ikard

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you can't argue with perception because perception is an opinion. What good does the number
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So clearly that $100k, or whatever, doesn't actually matter. And it seems that you still are incapable of understanding that GDP per capita is not income.

And since its an opinion, opinions can be changed, whether by force or otherwise. Witness how they changed after the national security law was imposed on Hong Kong by force. Didn't need much of an income change there did it?



It doesn't? When your infrastructure is crumbling while Chinese infrastructure is world class, when Chinese people live longer, are less likely to die in childbirth like medieval times, have faster internet and didn't get 1 million of them taken out by a simple flu, what does the number actually mean?

Guess you dropped Taiwanese there after I showed you with proof that no, they don't actually earn much more. I also noticed you didn't say that Hong Kongers had better houses, owned cars, or had a better quality of life. Why not?

They do? Show me the data. Where do most of them work as lawyers, managers, scientists, designers?

Hong Kongers may have become silent after National security Law but they are still as Anti-China and Self-Hating Western Worshipping as they were before. That's why alot of Hong Kongers are still leaving their cushy jobs and life for a BNO.

Most Hong Kongers of course will continue to live in Hong Kong because of their livelihood or familiarity or relatives. But they still get a foreign passport whenever they get a chance. They keep this as backup. Most Hong Kongers are dual passport holders.

Perception is an opinion but usually Perception is formed by actual situation over time. Stereotypes can be broken but it takes time.

Statistics about Mortality or Infrastructure will not change perception. What people see and do in their daily lives has to change as well. The fact is Hong Kongers, Taiwanese, Japanese or even Europeans have little Chinese presence in their lives. The adverts they see in TV, thats western company, the appliance they use, also western, they top university they aspire to go, also western. The email or OS they use on their phones, also western company. The news they see on TV is from a western Channel like CNN. The movies they are watch are hollywood movies.

All the goods they use might be made in China, but they are still western brands and designed by the west. Thats why Tik tok and Xiaomi had been such a huge change in people's perception on China. People are finally starting to see Chinese branded goods, apps in their daily lives now. This is changing the perception people of China.

But ofcourse China still has a long way to go.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Are you trolling dude? "American iPhone" that doesn't get made in America at all, the country that Apple avoids paying corporate taxes to?

Apple is a global corporation, and China has way more benefits from Apple than the US, including more wages, GDP boost, supply chain, etc.

America is I don't know how many times behind Chinese cars in terms of production, Regarding Japan, China is overtaking them too this year.


China outnumbers the U.S. for the first time in this ranking of the world’s ‘best’ universities​

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China already surpassed the West in terms of high-tech production. All those Western brands you see are made in China + Chinese own brands are rapidly catching up and getting market share all around the world.
his 'logic': none of this matters because west doesn't approve of it and west is best by definition.

it doesn't matter if they have shit infrastructure, war zone levels of maternal mortality, lower life expectancy both
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west is best, get it? Don't argue, he's a lawyer scientist manager, he knows best.
 

Serb

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The adverts they see in TV, thats western company, the appliance they use, also western, they top university they aspire to go, also western. The email or OS they use on their phones, also western company. The news they see on TV is from a western Channel like CNN. The movies they are watch are hollywood movies.

My man left in the early 00s... o_O
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Statistics about Mortality or Infrastructure will not change perception. What people see and do in their daily lives has to change as well. The fact is Hong Kongers, Taiwanese, Japanese or even Europeans have little Chinese presence in their lives. The adverts they see in TV, thats western company, the appliance they use, also western, they top university they aspire to go, also western. The email or OS they use on their phones, also western company. The news they see on TV is from a western Channel like CNN. The movies they are watch are hollywood movies.

All the goods they use might be made in China, but they are still western brands and designed by the west. Thats why Tik tok and Xiaomi had been such a huge change in people's perception on China. People are finally starting to see Chinese branded goods, apps in their daily lives now. This is changing the perception people of China.

But ofcourse China still has a long way to go.
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Global TV market share leaders came in the order of Samsung Electronics (19.6 percent), TCL (11.7 percent), and LG Electronics (11.69 percent), market research firm Omdia said on Feb. 21. The difference in sales between the second and third rankers was less than 30,000 units. HiSense (10.5 percent) and Xiaomi (6.2 percent) ranked fourth and fifth, so three of the top five TV makers are Chinese. The combined market share of TCL, HiSense, and Xiaomi reached 28.4 percent, surpassing Samsung Electronics, the number one player. The Chinese TV making trio accounted for more than a quarter of the total market. Japan’s Sony came in seventh.
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I noticed you didn't dare say the phone brand. But nobody pays attention to the OS of phones nor the email client, they just use the default free ones. People pay a ton of attention to the phone brand, because that's what you're paying for, not the free OS or free email client.
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Asia backs Olympic pathway for Russians, Belarusians​

The International Olympic Committee (IOC) is coming under immense pressure from 35 governments to exclude athletes from Russia and its ally Belarus because of the invasion of Ukraine.

The Olympic Council of Asia has already offered to let Russian and Belarusian athletes compete at the Asian Games in China later this year.

An OCA statement said that athletes "should not be punished for the actions of their governments" and "should have access to international competitions (including the Asian Games) without any form of discrimination."

Ukraine has threatened to boycott the Paris Olympics should Russians and Belarusians be allowed to compete.

Earlier this week, Germany abruptly canceled it's Fencing World Cup event after Russia, Belarus were readmitted by the FIE.
 

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Warren Buffett in Contact With Biden Team on Banking Crisis​

  • Billionaire, administration officials have had multiple talks
  • Calls have centered on possible investment and giving advice


Looks like China didn't pick up America's call last weekend, Biden admin going full panic mode. Buffett selling those BYD stocks a while ago makes more sense now. He wanted to take some profit cause he knew he the opportunity to buy banks for cheap was soon.

No you are wrong.

1) Warren Buffet’s partner, Charlie Munger, is a well known Wumao.
2) All Wumaos get money from SeeSeePee.
3) If Berkshire Hathaway bails out the banks, it will use assets from Charlie Munger and his Chinese money. So China has essentially bailed out the banks.
 

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I noticed you didn't dare say the phone brand. But nobody pays attention to the OS of phones nor the email client, they just use the default free ones. People pay a ton of attention to the phone brand, because that's what you're paying for, not the free OS or free email client.
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As I said, perception is always behind facts. Chinese Brands are slowly gaining popularity around the world. Hisense is one of the top TV brands in the US now for example. Chinese are starting to enter people's lives in developed countries. They have penetrated much deeper in poorer countries where Chinese electronics brands are even more prominent.

Chinese cars are starting gain popularity around the world as well. But it will take more time and happen gradually.

Alot of Chinese Apps are now top chart holders in App stores.

So, China is slowly getting there. But it will take more take time for China to equal the west. Plus, Chinese wealth and GDP Per Capita in Nominal terms will also rise at the same time. Chinese Universities will also gain more prominence and someday maybe students from all over the globe will come to study there.

As these things happen, perception will also change. In the future, Hong Kongers will no longer be ashamed to be called Chinese. Taiwanese may also embrace their Chinese identity.

I expect this to happen by 2050, so by then, a peaceful reunification might be possible, backed by Chinese military and Economic might that is several times stronger than today and much less anti-Chinese perception by Taiwanese who will start to see China as a role model.
 
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