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solarz

solarz

Brigadier
Tyler said:
Does China have enough ships like type 071, type 075 and other amphibious landing ships for Taiwan right now?
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They have enough for the job.


Hendrik_2000 said:
What I am saying is China better put their money where their mouth is. And start seriously expand the marine to 100,000 men Get crash program to build the LPD and LHD . Train division size landing and joint operation
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You're still fighting yesterday's wars.

Ten years ago, we were talking about mass landing operations because we all assumed that in order for China to win in the scenario of an armed reunification, the PLA needed to take control of Taiwan quickly, before the US has a chance to respond.

Today, China's area denial capabilities are sufficient to outright defeat any US attempt at intervention. China's missile artillery is capable of wiping out all of Taiwan's defenses within hours. China's SAM batteries covers the entire island of Taiwan and then some. There won't be any large scale beach head battles
 
Hendrik_2000

Hendrik_2000

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solarz said:
They have enough for the job.



You're still fighting yesterday's wars.

Ten years ago, we were talking about mass landing operations because we all assumed that in order for China to win in the scenario of an armed reunification, the PLA needed to take control of Taiwan quickly, before the US has a chance to respond.

Today, China's area denial capabilities are sufficient to outright defeat any US attempt at intervention. China's missile artillery is capable of wiping out all of Taiwan's defenses within hours. China's SAM batteries covers the entire island of Taiwan and then some. There won't be any large scale beach head battles
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You never win a war with air power alone . You have to put boot on the ground. Here is the break up of China landing forces 30 LST, 8 LPD, and a gaggle of small landing craft. Come on do the math each of LST can accommodate I am generous here 400 marine with 3 ZBD 5 each of LPD can accommodate 800 marine So total 12000 + 6400= 18400 That is only 2 battalion of army Taiwan has at least 100,000 assuming they have 5 landing site suitable for assault So each of the beach will be defended by 20,000 soldier . The rule of thumb is the attacking force should be 3 to 1 compare to the defending side. So how can China win with so few soldier on the ground.

So no wonder they have no respect of China. they just walk all over China's head
 
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antiterror13

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plawolf said:
I actually suggested something somewhat similar a long time ago, only my theory didn’t involve AWACS or shoot downs.

As a general rule, the more people involved, and more elaborate a conspiracy, the least likely it is to succeed and stay a secret.

It has been consistently rumoured that someone onboard was carrying some very sensitive technology destined for China.

That’s not the sort of thing you put in your check in luggage, and it would have been almost certain that Chinese agents would have been accompanying it as close protection.

How do you steal such a package without bloodshed or causing a major international incident? The easiest way to do it would be to introduce sleeping gas in the airlines energy air supply. If the US was desperately enough to risk intercepting a civilian airliner over international airspace, they would have just deployed agents to grab the package before it even got to the airport, with a massive shootout if needs be, as that would be less of deal that such an intercept/shoot down.

For my idea, all you would need are the pilots, and someone with ground crew access.

Pilots could be CIA assets with shallow covers, and can be switched in at the last minute without anyone really raising any eyebrows since such things happen all the time in civil aviation. Likewise it would be child’s play for the likes of the CIA to issue fake passes and credentials to allow one of their people to gain access to the plane as ground maintenance personnel. All very easily arranged.

The pilots would put on some aerobatics and drop emergency oxygen masks and order everyone to wear them, which everyone would automatically comply. Sleeping gas goes to work and knocks everyone, including the canine crew out, co-pilot pops out and casually lifts package and locks it away safely in the cockpit. Pilot shuts off sleeping gas, everyone wakes up, and mass unconsciousness will be chalked off to cabin pressure loss. Story makes the news as a minor side note and pilots gets commendations for ‘saving’ the plane and passengers, but decide to retire early due to the stress of the incident.

Problem was someone messed up the gas mix and no one woke up.

Pilots freaked out after realising they were flying a plane full of corpses towards Chinese airspace, with irrefutable evidence they cannot get rid of onboard that directly implicates the US government in a mass murder. They called their bosses and were ordered to drop blow radar and head to an US airbase, probably on Diego Garcia.

AWACS may have been subsequently scrambled/diverted to provide tracking and navigational support to ensure no-one picked up the plane thereafter. Maybe some jamming was also selectively used where the plane could not entirely avoid civilian radar grids.

Incidentally, this disappearance is rumoured to be one of the main reasons for China’s decision to build its SCS islands, as those islands now provide radar coverage over a previous blank spot, so things like this will never happen again.
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Thats great @plawolf
Thats in 2014 and during Obama/Biden, wondering what the electronic equipment would be and what the source of it ? I really want to know your views @plawolf

Russia may already know the truth ... but I wouldn't be surprised if that really happened
 
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solarz

solarz

Brigadier
Hendrik_2000 said:
You never win a war with air power alone . You have to put boot on the ground. Here is the break up of China landing forces 30 LST, 8 LPD, and a gaggle of small landing craft. Come on do the math each of LST can accommodate I am generous here 400 marine with 3 ZBD 5 each of LPD can accommodate 800 marine So total 12000 + 6400= 18400 That is only 2 battalion of army Taiwan has at least 100,000 assuming they have 5 landing site suitable for assault So each of the beach will be defended by 20,000 soldier . The rule of thumb is the attacking force should be 3 to 1 compare to the defending side. So how can China win with so few soldier on the ground.

So no wonder they have no respect of China. they just walk all over China's head
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LOL, are you serious?

I'm no military commander, but even I know that if the enemy has amassed 20,000 troops to defend a beach, I will just bomb the crap out of them first, then send in the infantry to clean up the remnants.

If the ROC military commanders were to be so dumb as to follow your strategy, those 20,000 ROC soldiers would turn into 1000 dead soldiers and 19,000 deserters within the first hour.

Meanwhile, since apparently the ROC put ALL of their troops to defending the beaches, PLA airborne soldiers can just waltz in and arrest the English Vegetable.
 
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