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j17wang

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I think Russia and China both have adopted the best respective strategies suitable for their own countries and circumstances. Russia has to stand firm and act strong in the face of West aggression. They had been naive since the fall of the Soviet Union (really since the Gorbachev era). Even Putin was genuinely hoping to cooperate with the West at the beginning. The West has been relentless and unreliable to Russia. Russia has learned their lesson. They have to stop the western aggression and erosion now; there is future for a "hide and bide" type of strategy.

China is different. It started poor and low and has benefited from a low-profile strategy. It's been growing, growing and growing. Time is on its side because much of its potential is still untapped. But China has gotten to the point where it can no longer stay low and the US (and to a lesser extent other western countries) is getting fearful. So the US is doing all it can to slow down if not stop China's growth. China is not yet strong enough to engage the US in a open, all-front conflict, but it has to push back strongly against US's deliberate attack against China's core and sovereign interest (Hong Kong, Xinjiang, Tibet and Taiwan). Trade war or even tech war is OK and can be manageable in comparison.

By the way, the quality of the US leadership since the end of Cold War has been mediocre, to put it very mildly.

Russia, despite what we say regarding its weak economy, wields huge soft and military power. Whether or not Russia was able to influence the US elections, BLM protests, its already a victory in that it is believed Russia can do such things. It was able to pit BLM, democrats vs republicans, which are skills which China must learn. Russia realized that if it couldn't get Americans to kill themselves they would kill Russians instead. It was the right thing for them to make Americans kill each other. China must also realize that Americans MUST kill, it is in their nature after 250 years of history so China must respond accordingly. Frankly it would be better if China expressed more outrage at the massacres of asians, africans, and latinos that now occurs on a daily basis.
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
Normally your posts are quite insightful, but the above comments are just dumb.

Who exactly is China going to attack with their army and air force? Russia? North Korea? Mongolia? Kazakhstan? Pakistan? Vietnam?

India may be belligerent, but what would starting a war with them accomplish?

The only military target of strategic value for China is Taiwan, and I can assure you, everything is ready for armed reunification. The PLA can take over Taiwan in an afternoon should the need arises.
It is not dumb but people like you are making all kind of excuses for no spine China. AGree and when are they going to move on Taiwan? They cross all the red line after red line and sofar China did NOTHING at all How long are they going to wait to reunify the country Forever seem to me Now they have the power but they didn't use it . If they they are not strong enough? why don't they go on war economy now and spend say 3% for war effort built PLPD and LHD by hundred? I guess because they scare of US
 

voyager1

Captain
Registered Member
It is not dumb but people like you are making all kind of excuses for no spine China. AGree and when are they going to move on Taiwan? They cross all the red line after red line and sofar China did NOTHING at all How long are they going to wait to reunify the country Forever seem to me Now they have the power but they didn't use it . If they they are not strong enough? why don't they go on war economy now and spend say 3% for war effort built PLPD and LHD by hundred? I guess because they scare of US
The core red line of China is the One China policy = Taiwan Independence. That hasnt happened right?

So the red line is intact and no need for China to go to war. Now obviously the US is pushing around but it doesn't dare to break the One China policy (neither Taiwan dares).

And why the hurry again? Xi will be given a 3rd and 4th term specifically for him to solve the Taiwan issue.

There is no hurry my friend, everything happens step by step, Taiwan unification is coming. The question is when exactly.

Some people think by 2027 some by 2032 but the message is clear. It is happening on around this decade. So no need to hurry as you will live to see this happening, unless you are very old of course
 

solarz

Brigadier
It is not dumb but people like you are making all kind of excuses for no spine China. AGree and when are they going to move on Taiwan? They cross all the red line after red line and sofar China did NOTHING at all How long are they going to wait to reunify the country Forever seem to me Now they have the power but they didn't use it . If they they are not strong enough? why don't they go on war economy now and spend say 3% for war effort built PLPD and LHD by hundred? I guess because they scare of US

China has codified the conditions of armed reunification in its laws. I suggest you read that sometime. Just because you say something is a red line doesn't mean it is.

China will only use force as a last resort because war is horrifying. Sun Tzu said it best, the greatest victory is one that is won without battle.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
It is not dumb but people like you are making all kind of excuses for no spine China.
And you are just making more evidence for no brain you.
AGree and when are they going to move on Taiwan?
When people who are smarter than you with more intel than you decide that it is strategically correct.
They cross all the red line after red line and sofar China did NOTHING at all
What red line? Declaring independence is the red line.
How long are they going to wait to reunify the country
See 2 lines above.
Forever seem to me
Seems to someone with the attention span of a gnat.
Now they have the power but they didn't use it .
Yeah, it's called strategy. You don't buy everything you can afford and you don't take every chess piece in your reach. Every day the power dynamic shifts more in favor of China and we have people with the though process of an angry third grader shouting, "Do it NOW! You SCARE?! Why not NOW?! Build thousand warship go war NOW! WAR NOW or you SCARE NO SPINE!" LOL That was barely even a parody of you.
If they they are not strong enough?
What?
why don't they go on war economy now and spend say 3% for war effort built PLPD and LHD by hundred?
Because that's retarded and China is the country that continuously builds itself instead of one who bankrupts itself on emotional outbursts.
I guess because they scare of US
As good a guess as it gets for someone with the qualifications of my first line and my fifth line.

You should have applied for Trump's cabinet. You sound like you fit right in!
 
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taxiya

Brigadier
Registered Member
It is not dumb but people like you are making all kind of excuses for no spine China. AGree and when are they going to move on Taiwan? They cross all the red line after red line and sofar China did NOTHING at all How long are they going to wait to reunify the country Forever seem to me Now they have the power but they didn't use it . If they they are not strong enough? why don't they go on war economy now and spend say 3% for war effort built PLPD and LHD by hundred? I guess because they scare of US
Sorry to say so but you sound like one of the anti-China "pro-democracy" Hongkonger, the long hair (Liang Guoxiong) who tried to organize "landing on Diaoyu island" during the Japanese "nationalization of Diaoyu island".

Everybody knew (or at least know now) who he really is. He tried to force Japanese coast guard to arrest him within 12 miles of Diayu island, that would then force Chinese coast guard to intercept the Japanese, a conflict would have broken out and even escalated into Naval shooting, then the US would get an excuse to shoot China too.

We know that the US want a conflict with China right now before their weapons expire and their economy further weakened. For US, it is now or never. For China it is the opposite, the longer we hold the lesser cost we pay, the more decisive and glorious the victory would be. Punching around at the slightest insult is a sign of insecurity rather than confidence.

Don't be played by your enemy, don't dance in the tune of your enemy, most importantly don't do things that help the enemy.
 

siegecrossbow

General
Staff member
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MOFA: BBC is not trusted even in the UK​

The Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hua Chunying is on action


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Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
And you are just making more evidence for no brain you.

When people who are smarter than you with more intel than you decide that it is strategically correct.

What red line? Declaring independence is the red line.

See 2 lines above.

Seems to someone with the attention span of a gnat.

Yeah, it's called strategy. You don't buy everything you can afford and you don't take every chess piece in your reach. Every day the power dynamic shifts more in favor of China and we have people with the though process of an angry third grader shouting, "Do it NOW! You SCARE?! Why not NOW?! Build thousand warship go war NOW! WAR NOW or you SCARE NO SPINE!" LOL That was barely even a parody of you.

What?

Because that's retarded and China is the country that continuously builds itself instead of one who bankrupts itself on emotional outbursts.

As good a guess as it gets for someone with the qualifications of my first line and my fifth line.

You should have applied for Trump's cabinet. You sound like you fit right in!
It is people like you who said they have the brain but NO GUT, why China was weak. Remember Song dynasty wonder if people like are interested in History at all read history instead reading all those stupid Phd book with no nothing to gain. So what good is all your Phd if you don't have a job?

The US practically throw a way the Beijing consensus by sending their ambassador ,De facto recoqnizing Taiwan as independent country. Selling ton and tons of weapon to Taiwan and all China can do is protesting

What strategy other than no GUT!

yeah all the talk is ueseless if the enemy know that you can only transport 1 division the most across the Taiwan strait. Say today Taiwan declare independence what can China do when transport ship can only ferry 2 division of Marine and 1 more army division ?
 

voyager1

Captain
Registered Member
It is people like you who said they have the brain but NO GUT, why China was weak. Remember Song dynasty wonder if people like are interested in History at all read history instead reading all those stupid Phd book with no nothing to gain. So what good is all your Phd if you don't have a job?

The US practically throw a way the Beijing consensus by sending their ambassador ,De facto recoqnizing Taiwan as independent country. Selling ton and tons of weapon to Taiwan and all China can do is protesting

What strategy other than no GUT!

yeah all the talk is ueseless if the enemy know that you can only transport 1 division the most across the Taiwan strait. Say today Taiwan declare independence what can China do when transport ship can only ferry 2 division of Marine and 1 more army division ?
Calmness in all is always necessary when dealing with things like these.

While I admit that the US sending its ambassador there was a challenge to the China, it is still important to understand that Taiwan has still not declared independence. I mean defacto Taiwan is already a country.

The only difference is that it cant have proper diplomatic missions (US is trying to change this though) and that it hasn't properly declared independence. So for now China is ok. However I would say that China needs to impose costs on US when it tries to salami-slice China's red line on Taiwan.

The selling of weapons is nothing out of the normal. This has happened in the past as well, maybe the only difference is the scale of it but it still doesn't matter because their high-ticket items will be destroyed in the initial barrage.
I will note though, that China must pay attention if the US tries to sell to Taiwan asymmetric weapon systems.


And if Taiwan declares independence there are a lot of ways for China to respond. I am sure that the PLA has a couple of plans on their drawer. There are ways to punish it and to also capture I would say, so no need to be afraid that China would be incapable of taking it if something happened
 
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siegecrossbow

General
Staff member
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It is people like you who said they have the brain but NO GUT, why China was weak. Remember Song dynasty wonder if people like are interested in History at all read history instead reading all those stupid Phd book with no nothing to gain. So what good is all your Phd if you don't have a job?

The US practically throw a way the Beijing consensus by sending their ambassador ,De facto recoqnizing Taiwan as independent country. Selling ton and tons of weapon to Taiwan and all China can do is protesting

What strategy other than no GUT!

yeah all the talk is ueseless if the enemy know that you can only transport 1 division the most across the Taiwan strait. Say today Taiwan declare independence what can China do when transport ship can only ferry 2 division of Marine and 1 more army division ?

China had the most spine during Chairman Mao’s days. That didn’t stop Taiwanese pilots from not only intruding mainland airspace every other day of the week but also shoot and kill PLAAF pilots on numerous occasions, once even straffing a pilot who had ejected with aircraft cannons.

https://baike.baidu.com/item/杜凤瑞/2436733
 
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