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manqiangrexue said:
No. My father took me to public pools and paid each time to teach me to swim from a young age. If he was busy, my grandfather would teach that day. They set 3 tiers of goals per lesson for movement and breath control and for each tier I completed, I got an upgrade to my dinner that night! Nothing was convenient or cheap but my father and grandfather pulled out all the stops to teach me. Even my uncles did this for their daughters. In my family, we say that all men must swim and we must know how to swim while saving someone if they are drowning.
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And you expect most rural workers or farmers have time and money to teach their children how to swim. Even if someone knows how to swim, it doesn't mean he/she is a good swimmer.

Someone is intentionally hyped up this incident and you fall for it. Anyway it is a good deed no matter what.

Seven members of Chinese family dead after attempt to save drowning girl

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Chinese mother covered up that hero died saving her two children from drowning

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Intrepid

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manqiangrexue said:
I don't think so. The triathlete Stephen Ellison was born in 1968. This diplomat is age 61 years of age according to the article, placing his birth year at 1959 give or take.
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I don't know what to believe now.

"The consul general, who takes part in triathlons, turned the student over, lifted her face clear of the water and swam backwards to the steep sided riverbank."
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Guys, read the article. There wasn't anything in it that blamed the bystanders for doing nothing.

Indeed as I have already explained, this was perfectly normal behavior for an emergency.

Note: I was referring to the NDTV article @manqiangrexue posted, not the BBC article above that just had to add a dig against Chinese in the end.
 
manqiangrexue

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KYli said:
And you expect most rural workers or farmers have time and money to teach their children how to swim. Even if someone knows how to swim, it doesn't mean he/she is a good swimmer.
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OK cool, they don't have time. So when their kid drowns, they'll have plenty of time after the funeral to lounge around. Sounds good, their call.
KYli said:
Someone is intentionally hyped up this incident and you fall for it. Anyway it is a good deed no matter what.

Seven members of Chinese family dead after attempt to save drowning girl

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Chinese mother covered up that hero died saving her two children from drowning

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I didn't "fall" for anything because I don't believe that the British are heroic (although this is one heroic deed by a Brit) nor that Chinese are cowardly but that the Chinese people present failed to prevent the situation from unfolding in a way that can be perceived as such.

Like I said, bringing in other incidents only shows how indefensible this incident was.
 
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Staff Sergeant Ben Chang with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), would not be testifying after seeking counsel from a lawyer.


According to court documents, Chang, who is now retired, allegedly sent details of Meng’s electronic devices to the FBI. Chang denied the allegation in an affidavit submitted to courts.
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KYli

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manqiangrexue said:
OK cool, they don't have time. So when their kid drowns, they'll have plenty of time after the funeral to lounge around. Sounds good, their call.
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Since the chance that their kids got drown is extremely low, their decision for not wasting time and resource to teach their children how to swim is a good call.

I didn't "fall" for anything because I don't believe that the British are heroic (although this is one heroic deed by a Brit) nor that Chinese are cowardly but that the Chinese people present failed to prevent the situation from unfolding in a way that can be perceived as such.

Like I said, bringing in other incidents only shows how indefensible this incident was.
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Bringing in other incident is to show you that the risk is pretty great if someone is not a good swimmer to try to save someone drowning. And there are plenty of people that would try to save someone drowning in China. That means this thing isn't unique. The British guy reacts fast to this incident and looks like a good swimmer that knows what he is doing. He did a good deed. Other time, other place, another drowning is saved by some college kid, some farmer, and some nobody. They did some good deeds. No need to make a big fuss about it.
 
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