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Chevalier

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Technically Qing lost those lands due to Imperial Russia and the Soviets also. Those lands are also harder to pacify and objectively less valuable, also China doesn't want to absorb more foreign population.

Outer Manchuria and Outer Mongolia can integrate with the rest of China relatively easily.
Australia and New zealand would be just as easily assimilated into China proper considering the low population of both islands. You would only need about 50 million Chinese to settle and inhabit Australia to outnumber the anglo population 2:1, not counting the 10% who are Chinese/Asian heritage. High speed rail connecting China to Australia via ASEAN and Indonesia could be done, just as the Chinese once proposed HSR from China to California via Alaska and Canada.

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I can see however, the Five Eyes attempting greyzone warfare against China by using pirates/proxy terrorist groups and drones in the Malacca strait to target and harass Chinese shipping, hence why the PLAN should exercise full control over all crucial nodes of access in the SCS as well as BRI linkages across eurasia.
 

Santamaria

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Couldn't care less what a politician like Putin says in public while on an official state visit to China when he's desperate for support from the only economic lifeline he has left. I've browsed Russian geopolitics subs/social media in the past and they've never viewed China/Chinese people favorably before the war and I'm wondering why there's so many Russian simps in Chinese boards. Again, Russia is only using China as a partner of last resort because they've been shunned by the West due to their war of territorial expansion. China should view this relationship as a quid pro quo just like how Russians view it. If Russia can get back with the West while keeping Ukrainian territory even if it means enmity with China, I'm sure they would do it in a heartbeat.
Literally all answer post is based in Western propaganda and wrong view of the world.

1 - About Putin being desperate -> I dont know, he look pretty calm. Russia economy growing, they are winning in the battlefield, they have low debt, manufacturing greatly expanding. Where is the desperation?

2 - About Russia using China -> In what is Russia using China? Russia sell gas and petrol to China at lower price that they used to sell to Europe. Also sell food, some weapons and some nuclear tech. Then they buy microelectronics, cars and many other products from China. They have the most equilibrated trade balance between 2 big develop countries int he world. It is a win win for both, not some kind of favor of China to Russia.

3 - War of territorial expansion? ->Yeah sure, i don't want to enter in politics, but to think that this is a war of territorial expansion for Russia is very absurd. Look where are the historical borders of Russian Empire, and of Soviet Union. Then think again who is expanding.

4 - You are sure they will switch China for the West -> Based in what? Do you have such a low confidence in China? Why any rational independent country would change a rising China for a declining West? Besides that, your impression about Russia social opinion is wrong. I tell this speaking russians and having a belarussian wife. Russian politic groups is basically, orthodox conservatives around 50/60%, communist soviet nationalist 20%/30% and the rest who are liberals. The first 2 groups greatly dislike the West in all aspects and they are the majority of Russian society.
Only people who prefer the West over China are the liberals that got injected into Russian high position in Yeltsin times when their sovereignty was 0.
My personal experience is that russian and belarussian consider China highly successful and if something they are jealous in a good way of China's achievements and development.

5 - Why there is many pro Russians in China boards? -> Well, it is pretty obvious that the enemy of your enemy is your friend. This is a historical truth. China and Russia share a vision of the world and moreover their main spheres of interest are compatible. The logical area of influence of Russia are the slavic countries of Europe, while the logical area of influence of China are the countries that are historically influenced by chinese culture like Vietnam, Singapure,... and basically all Asia. The only gray area where both have interest is the steppes of Central Asia, where the main basic interest for both is that they are in peace and allow intra continent stable commerce and supply lines.
Also for China Russia is crucial strategically to provide resources in a way that is impossible to block, and to guard their back. The worst nightmare of China would have been a ukranaised Russia.
That would have been a checkmate for China.
So it is logical that Chinese government, and people favour Russia, and a Russian goverment that is clearly friendly to them.

6 - Finally I think it is obvious that Putin and Xi get along well, and this is not only due to the war. They know each other since more than 15 years ago
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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First of all, I like how lightly colored the ROC is on the second chart; shows we still got some brothers over there worth not killing.

Secondly, is Iran out of their mother f'ing minds? They are unsavable if this shit is true. What hope is there when one cannot even differentiate friend from foe while currently under attack?? Never thought I'd see a real world rendition of a Pokemon becoming confused and hitting itself in its confusion.
Iranians don't like China for some f..d up reason(s).
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Iran also has net positive perceptions of the US and EU and net negative perception of Russia.
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That's not it. US and Europe vote against Iran in the UN much more than China and Russia, yet Iranians view US and EU positively and view China and Russia negatively.


I think this is a likely contributing factor. Iranians really don't like their government and political system.
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Because most of the survey participants (Iranians) have for the most part a very WESTERN CENTRIC VIEW OF THEMSELVES hence the unsurprising result on this survey.

These people think that they are a step above the Chinese people in perception not reality. That's true then and even to this day despite CHINA's massive improvements and leap in technology, economy, diplomacy, and military power. But for whatever reason, they don't hold the same dismissive contempt towards Japan, Taiwan and South Korea.
 

FriedButter

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when Russia spend huge amount on Sochi it barely had 400K population and no commercial port or natural resources and cut off by mountains. Now they are developing Arctic /Pacific and you think to reach up North and East they will not made any cities in the middle? when the likely hood of resources extraction get higher and above all it has Arab interest. The problem is you are challenging the combine wisdom of Gulf Royals and Russia regarding North Pole. look at this historic picture.

And you are still trying to compare renovating an existing city to building a new one from scratch in the middle of no where. You are adding absolutely nothing other then continuously refusing to admit that a city cannot be build within a few years.

It is better to collect all Muslims in front of Arabs. this Orthodox church is complete failure.

So what you are implying is that Russian people are inferior and thus must all be replaced with Arab people.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Iran economy is shit so public acceptance of its political system, alignment, values, diplomacy etc are also at low levels.

All politics is local. If your government is incompetent, why would the public support it.
But Iranians are nothing but dimwits and nitwits for them not to fully consider or place the economic condition of their country from the massive economic sanctions Iran has been subjected with since the theocratic government took power. Unless, they can name a single country that's swimming ECONOMICALLY that faced similar levels of sanctions then they can rightfully deserving of their complaints. But such a country has yet to exist (Russia's ECON future remains to be seen for us to have an objective view of its wealth standing).

They (Iranians) in my opinion largely run from their historical evidence of greatness and revisionist coloured glasses look at their most recent contemporary history under the Shah of Iran as if it was the time of modernity and economic vibrancy. When the actual data and situation on the ground couldn't be starker from the truth, hence, the eventual toppling of the regime easily replaced by the Ayatollah without an actual push and support from any outside power(s) unlike that of the deposed Shah.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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I see Iranians the same fool as Russians who park their money in Euro to bet against sanctions. White power and what not. Lucky for us, American elites are unredeemably racist. If Russians are not white enough, definitely not Iranians. We just have to be patient and let Iran have its own Ukraine as a wake up call. A wake up call that is so irredeemably brutal that they have no choice but to comepletely purge its treacherous elements. Lets hope they can become the next Russia.
This "White Iranian-Amerixican" begs to differ.

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Serb

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But Iranians are nothing but dimwits and nitwits for them not to fully consider or place the economic condition of their country from the massive economic sanctions Iran has been subjected with since the theocratic government took power. Unless, they can name a single country that's swimming ECONOMICALLY that faced similar levels of sanctions then they can rightfully deserving of their complaints. But such a country has yet to exist (Russia's ECON future remains to be seen for us to have an objective view of its wealth standing).

They (Iranians) in my opinion largely run from their historical evidence of greatness and revisionist coloured glasses look at their most recent contemporary history under the Shah of Iran as if it was the time of modernity and economic vibrancy. When the actual data and situation on the ground couldn't be starker from the truth, hence, the eventual toppling of the regime easily replaced by the Ayatollah without an actual push and support from any outside power(s) unlike that of the deposed Shah.


The thing with Iran is that they are much less ethnically homogeneous than Russia and China. That's why they have so many inner or emigrant "traitors" and separatists.

Sharing a common religion (Shia Islam) and pushing for the official and ubiquitous use of the Persian language can help improve national unity, but only to a certain extent.

That's why they have so many Western "democracy" fanboys. As half of the country is from minority ethnic groups it is basically logical (they view it as some cushion for their minority rights). So, you could say that it also makes them pro-Western and anti-China by extension too.

However, this is also why you have to have a strong hand always leading there or you will have a disintegration/friction over time, so this kind of regime is the only option.



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This "White Iranian-Amerixican" begs to differ.

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Yeah, this idiot clown is the best example, he is also a minority ethnic group from Iran.

He is of
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(maternal line) descent.

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