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Biscuits

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Stierlitz said:
It's worrisome with how much ease the U.S. is able to install its puppets in power : Philippines, South Korea, Pakistan, Thailand, Peru and now Argentina.
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Lol how much have these supposed flawless operations actually helped them achieve gains?

South Korea is literally occupied territory, if they couldn't install whoever they want there, it would be worrisome, it'd be like if China couldn't put in whatever person as head of Macau.

Argentina is a garbage colony with nothing to its history besides being colonized. These countries are cowardly and corrupt by nature, but they are always a burden to achieve anything with. China doesn't mind letting the Americans try to mismanage this hot potato for a few months. You'll soon see them u-turn right back, because America ain't able to provide stability, security, nor prosperity for them.

More riots, new leader, and then they end up doing nothing in the end for neither US nor China anyways. But through such actions, China keeps probing and forcing out action that wastes time and resources for America, just so that US can keep it's own backyard in order.

Keep probing.
 
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Abominable

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This Argentinian isn't CIA installed. This isn't the 70s anymore, the American regime views far right populists as much as a threat as communists. The preferred guy is a plain "technocrat" centrist with a background in finance.

Maybe you could make a point if Trump was still around, but I doubt he knows much about South America and in any event, much of the deep state remained intact during his reign.

It's just standard South American politics. They go from one extreme to the other, with nothing actually changing.
 
Bellum_Romanum

Bellum_Romanum

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Stierlitz said:
It's worrisome with how much ease the U.S. is able to install its puppets in power : Philippines, South Korea, Pakistan, Thailand, Peru and now Argentina.
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Answer: China's noble yet quixotic pursuit of NON-INTERVENTIONIST POLICY. Ideally it's a pursuit worth attaining absence a power like the west lead by the U.S. hellbent on denying and destroying your reputation and everything that carries the name China. Unless there's an overt change on this policy or at least make a private warning to any would be meddlesome elements that there will be hell to pay then expect the west to keep making inroads in all of the countries where western influence is very strong.
 
sheogorath

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Abominable said:
This isn't the 70s anymore, the American regime views far right populists as much as a threat as communists. The preferred guy is a plain "technocrat" centrist with a background in finance.
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For Latin America, not really the case. Latin American right wing populists are still stuck in the Cold War, obssessed with Cuba, Fidel Castro and still think Orlando, Florida is heaven on earth.
 
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jwnz

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Stierlitz said:
This guy will most likely be extremely hostile towards China. I found this article from two years ago :

The ultra-liberal Javier Milei, the first candidate for deputy for the City of Buenos Aires, assured that he "would not do business with China", despite the fact that it fluctuates between the first and second destination for Argentine exports. The argument of the referent of Avanza Libertad was extemporaneous: "I do not do transactions with communists."

The far-right economist considered that breaking relations with China would not be a serious macroeconomic problem because "we could make transactions with the civilized side of life", where he placed the countries of the "West".

Milei's McCarthyist position was exposed during an interview with Canal de la Ciudad, in which a journalist began by asking him about the relationship with Cuba and Venezuela -to which he only replied "condemn"-, and then opened the query by the main trading partner of Argentina after Brazil.

"I would not do business with China," the economist tried to evade the question, but when asked about the impact it would have on the Argentine economy to stop exporting grains and meat to the Asian country, Milei insisted on his cold war position: "It is false that it would be a macroeconomic tragedy. We could deal with the civilized side of life. I don't deal with communists."

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I bet he would do a U turn on his rhetoric if he ever gets elected and when reality hits. If even the US and EU can't decouple with China, what does he really think Argentina could do?

Besides, Argentina isn't on good terms with the West neither.
 
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quim

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Biscuits said:
Lol how much have these supposed flawless operations actually helped them achieve gains?

South Korea is literally occupied territory, if they couldn't install whoever they want there, it would be worrisome, it'd be like if China couldn't put in whatever person as head of Macau.

Argentina is a garbage colony with nothing to its history besides being colonized. These countries are cowardly and corrupt by nature, but they are always a burden to achieve anything with. China doesn't mind letting the Americans try to mismanage this hot potato for a few months. You'll soon see them u-turn right back, because America ain't able to provide stability, security, nor prosperity for them.

More riots, new leader, and then they end up doing nothing in the end for neither US nor China anyways. But through such actions, China keeps probing and forcing out action that wastes time and resources for America, just so that US can keep it's own backyard in order.

Keep probing.
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Sorry, but what a naive thought.

Latin American countries are poor and defenseless. Manipulating and managing them is the easiest thing in the world and the US does it cheaply and without any competition.

If China wants to protect itself from the US threat to its business in the region, it will need to help its allies to prosper, competing with the US for the power. Otherwise, Latin America will always be poor, cheap and the backyard of the USA that will remain safe and without any threat in sight. While the USA will grow increasingly aggressive and expands its vassals in Asia threatening China's security with impunity.
 
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