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AssassinsMace

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Agnus said:
Is there even any true A list ''East Asian'' star in the West? I can't think of any.
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The closest one is probably Jackie Chan because when he recently announced his communist sympathies, the news reached to the US where the Republican usual suspects hypocritically called for cancelling him. They don't have the power to cancel him because Jackie Chan got his fame and fortune in Asia. They believe they could cancel him because they think his fame and fortune is because the US. Going after him means he's famous enough to see him as a threat to their interests and therefore they can end the threat by removing a fame they didn't give him in the first place.
 
solarz

solarz

Brigadier
plawolf said:
No, I don’t think it’s that simple at all. Cancelling all her shows and movies would carry massive collateral damage to all the other innocent people involved in those shows and movies, and it’s extremely high profile and would not be a step to be taken lightly or often.

The article itself is almost explicit in linking her cancelling to Zhang Zhehan visiting the Yasukuni Warcrimes Shrine.

I myself have noticed firsthand an unhealthy degree of obsession with Japanese culture and products in younger generation Chinese youth. And that feels beyond what should be possible with just whatever you call their cartoons nonsense.

Given Zhao’s track record, it is entirely on brand for her to have made some deal with Japanese elites to actively promote Japanese culture in China.

The whole Yasukuni stunt could have been organised by her as some grand phase 2 project to rehabilitate that foul institution with Chinese youth by roping in a popular and naive young star to normalise visiting it. He China done nothing, it would have been inevitable that some of his more hardcore and stupid fans would have also flocked to visit the shrink to ape their idol.

For the Chinese authorities to have moved on her so quickly and so thoroughly suggests she has been on their radar for some time, and this was the last straw and crossing a red line all in one.

I think she was singled out as the snake head at the heart of Japanese influence operations in China, and also as the proverbial chicken to warn all the other Chinese celebrities to not let fame go to their heads, because no matter how big or powerful you think you are, you will still get cancelled without a second’s hesitation if you are moronic enough to try to bite the hand that feds you.
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I think you're overthinking this.

As far as I know, Zhao Wei doesn't have any current works, so all the shows that are removed from streaming sites are old shows. There are no collateral damage to speak of.

Also, you vastly overestimate her influence, or that of Zhang Zhehan. Zhang's stunt was widely condemned on the internet, it's highly unlikely it would have inspired any kind of following. There's also the fact that other celebrities are apparently also part of this campaign, including Zheng Shuang, Wu Yifan, and Fan Bingbing.

I would venture to guess this is a house cleaning operation. Wu Yifan is going to get cancelled for sure, Zheng Shuang just needs to pay her 300 million yuan fine, and Fan Bingbing, unless she's got more skeletons in her closet, will get reinstated after a while. As for Zhao Wei, my opinion is that she's probably in the same basket as Fan Bingbing, in that she will get reinstated after certain behind-the-scenes things occur. Again, assuming she doesn't have other skeletons in the closet.
 
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Agnus

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Why doesn't China try to regime change Japan slowly by placing more pro-China Japanese figures into the Japanese political elite. I heard the Japanese business class is already pretty proChina. One class of Japanese elites already sort of pro-China. I'm sure the business class is already acts as a safety valve to keep the LDP going crazy. I'm sure that is much harder done than said. The social circles for the Japanese elite are incredibly hard to get into even for regular Japanese people. Most come from the landed gentry of the Samurai elite from the feudal era.
 
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emblem21

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Agnus said:
Why doesn't China try to regime change Japan slowly by placing more pro-China Japanese figures into the Japanese political elite. I heard the Japanese business class is already pretty proChina. One class of Japanese elites already sort of pro-China. I'm sure the business class is already acts as a safety valve to keep the LDP going crazy. I'm sure that is much harder done than said. The social circles for the Japanese elite are incredibly hard to get into even for regular Japanese people.
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I am sure this will happen sooner or later once the usa loses its preeminence in the world and given the amount of debacles happening in this year alone, this could be a matter of time.
 
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B.I.B.

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Agnus said:
Why doesn't China try to regime change Japan slowly by placing more pro-China Japanese figures into the Japanese political elite. I heard the Japanese business class is already pretty proChina. One class of Japanese elites already sort of pro-China. I'm sure the business class is already acts as a safety valve to keep the LDP going crazy. I'm sure that is much harder done than said. The social circles for the Japanese elite are incredibly hard to get into even for regular Japanese people. Most come from the landed gentry of the Samurai elite from the feudal era.
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China needs to see if it can create a dirt dossier containing dirt on all the aspiring PM/senior leaders of the LDP leaders and use it to embarrass them to the point they have to resign if they become too much of a thorn in their side. I'm sure the CIA has got dirt on any aspiring leader of Korea or Japan which they can use if they think the strong candidate is too pro China.
 
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Overbom

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Agnus said:
Why doesn't China try to regime change Japan slowly by placing more pro-China Japanese figures into the Japanese political elite. I heard the Japanese business class is already pretty proChina. One class of Japanese elites already sort of pro-China. I'm sure the business class is already acts as a safety valve to keep the LDP going crazy. I'm sure that is much harder done than said. The social circles for the Japanese elite are incredibly hard to get into even for regular Japanese people. Most come from the landed gentry of the Samurai elite from the feudal era.
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Not happening. Japan is a strategic vassal of the US. There is no chance at a million that the US would allow Japan to get regime changed by China.

As long as troops are on Japan's soil, the US would rather march their troops inside Japan and shoot all these businessmen before letting Japan free and out of their vassal status.

Only way Japan change sides is by defeating its master, the US. At most, China can only hope for the businesses moderating Japan's behaviour towards it (and even that moderation is declining now)
 
plawolf

plawolf

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Agnus said:
Why doesn't China try to regime change Japan slowly by placing more pro-China Japanese figures into the Japanese political elite. I heard the Japanese business class is already pretty proChina. One class of Japanese elites already sort of pro-China. I'm sure the business class is already acts as a safety valve to keep the LDP going crazy. I'm sure that is much harder done than said. The social circles for the Japanese elite are incredibly hard to get into even for regular Japanese people. Most come from the landed gentry of the Samurai elite from the feudal era.
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For the simple reason that China doesn’t have troops stationed in Japan. Any regime change operation will be put down by the US military if it gets that far, but with how thoroughly that society has been made to worship the white man and despise all other coloureds; and how entrenched western institutions and intelligence agencies are in its government, it’s a waste of time and money to be frank.

Japanese modern culture is a perversion of the samurai spirit which in its essence values might=right above all else. They think Americans are best because Americans spanked them in WWII. Similarly they look down on other Asians because they still cling to their WWII ‘glory’ days. So unless and until China spanks them harder than the Americans ever did in a new war, they will continue to look down their noses at China and think themselves superior.
 
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