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SampanViking

SampanViking

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Overbom said:
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Its not that convoluted. IMO ISIS-K taking advantage of having the world's attention to the Kabul airport they attacked the Americans and have thus score a tremendous propaganda win.

Think about it, the whole world now knows about them. They are taking over the "anti-US" role from other groups and have demonstrated their ability to harm US troops

Plus if they managed to convince the US to stay in Afghanistan then that would give them a further recruiting boost in Afghanistan and in the wider region.
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Thanks for those details.
No I don;t doubt what you say in the least.
It is simply that to have such a specific warning on the specific day, means that the West knew it was coming and where it was coming from. A simple way for this to be true is to have given bad news to a no longer required asset and to have received a very real threat back by return!

ISIS can surely launch a simply random suicide bomber attack in total surprise. This has been a known and appreciated risk from day one of the evacuation. This attack was known about and very precise.
 
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SampanViking said:
It is simply that to have such a specific warning on the specific day, means that the West knew it was coming and where it was coming from. A simple way for this to be true is to have given bad news to a no longer required asset and to have received a very real threat back by return!
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Dont take it as a fact but I saw a rumour that it was the Taliban that warned the Americans about the potential attack.

There was also a US General who said that the Taliban have also prevented attacks against the US.
 
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Dont take it as a fact but I saw a rumour that it was the Taliban that warned the Americans about the potential attack.

There was also a US General who said that the Taliban have also prevented attacks against the US.
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It would be very interesting if true.
It would also be interesting to learn if there were any Taliban commanders or Former Regime officials killed in the blast. We have all assumed that Western forces were the primary target and discounted local vendetta completely.
 
Maula Jatt

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Have there been any details put out by any national source about the identity of the ISIS suicide bombers?

I know that there are many groups within it that have issues with the US and would love some pay back, but I really do sense "Its personal" against the US in these attacks, which are surprising given the overall situation. You would have thought that they would want to challenge the Taliban directly as their principle rival.

I have been saying for the last few weeks, that the end of the West's Afghan mission is; by extension, the end of the Xinjiang mission. Given also that there are a lot of Uighurs in both Al qidea and ISIS and that the proportion of them in any organisation is likely to higher in a country bordering China, I do speculate whether these attacks may have been carried out by Uighur's that have realised that they are now surplus to requirements!!??

Pure speculation and with no shred of supporting evidence one way or the other. Curious though to find out if there is any evidence one way or the other out there?
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I am still not convinced if Talibs have stopped supporting Al qaeeda,

ISIS yes (made up of mostly foreign fighters from nieghborhing countries and hardcore Talib dissenters)
 
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I am still not convinced if Talibs have stopped supporting Al qaeeda,

ISIS yes (made up of mostly foreign fighters from nieghborhing countries and hardcore Talib dissenters)
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Same. I am also not sure that they have (or planning to do) made a clear break with ETIM.
Who knows how entangled they are with each other.

You know what they say, better safe than sorry. So, the Taliban should make a strong and public break with terrorist organisations and prove it with their actions.
 
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Same. I am also not sure that they have (or planning to do) made a clear break with ETIM.
Who knows how entangled they are with each other.

You know what they say, better safe than sorry. So, the Taliban should make a strong and public break with terrorist organisations and prove it with their actions.
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As far as I know (and someone can correct me if I am wrong) ETIM and other foreign fighters have already joined and will join ISIS in the near future

Just cause these foreign groups are carrying ISIS flags with em

But honestly countries desperately need intelligence on Talibs themselves to know whats happening?
 
Bellum_Romanum

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US teaming up with the Taliban? Its like history is repeating itself all over again
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1431166377843363841
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And yet some of the people here were getting alarmed that China was wanting to forge a working relationship with the Taliban citing the usual western b.s. talking points and now we're learning how the U.S. is now going to be working with their enemy to fight their common enemy of the moment and somehow to others this action will be seen as some kind of strategic brilliance or 4D Chess move. The power of American persuasions are quite potent.
 
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