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China has pledged support for the Taliban’s role in
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reconstruction, while demanding that it cuts ties with the
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– blamed by Beijing for attacks in its
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region.

Foreign Minister Wang Yi made the remarks during talks with a nine-member delegation led by the Taliban’s chief negotiator and co-founder Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar in the northern city of Tianjin on Wednesday.

It was the first time a senior member of the organisation had visited China since the Taliban’s capture of several key districts in Badakhshan and Kandahar provinces. Taliban fighters have taken control of around half the country up to its border with the Chinese region of
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, and US air strikes continue to support Afghan security forces.

Taliban co-founder Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar. Photo: AFP


Taliban co-founder Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar. Photo: AFP

Wang said the withdrawal of US and Nato troops from Afghanistan represented a failure of US policies and called on the Taliban to push for a role in the peace process.


“The Taliban in Afghanistan is a pivotal military and political force in the country, and will play an important role in the process of peace, reconciliation and reconstruction there,” Wang said, according to a foreign ministry statement.

Wang said China would support Afghanistan’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, but he also demanded the Taliban cut off any connection with the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM).

“ETIM is an international terrorist organisation listed by the UN Security Council and poses a direct threat to China’s national security and territorial integrity,” Wang said.

“Fighting ETIM is the common responsibility of the international community and I hope the Afghanistan Taliban will cut ties with terror groups such as ETIM. The Afghanistan Taliban can contribute to an effective crackdown against those groups and play an active role in regional stability and development.”

Taliban spokesman Mohammad Naeem said the meetings focused on the political, economic and security issues facing the two nations, as well as the peace process.

He tweeted that the group had assured China that Afghan territory would not be used to threaten the security of other nations, and that China had promised not to interfere in Afghanistan’s affairs but to help build peace and solve problems.
The US stepped up air strikes in southern Afghanistan against the Taliban on Sunday, with General Frank McKenzie saying America was prepared to continue if the Taliban offensive did not stop.

The Taliban has called the air strikes a violation of the Doha agreement – the peace deal signed by Baradar with the US in February last year that paved the way for the withdrawal of American troops, due to be completed in late August, and the eventual intra-Afghan negotiations.
Afghanistan and China are also expected to be the focus of talks in New Delhi between US Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Indian officials on Wednesday.

Beijing has been closely watching the progress of US troop withdrawals from Afghanistan and sought to play a bigger role in the country. At a meeting with his Afghan and Pakistani counterparts in June, Wang vowed to “bring the Taliban back into the political mainstream” and offered to host intra-Afghan peace talks.

“China’s position is that this should be resolved within Afghanistan. And the situation in Afghanistan should not threaten China’s security,” a source said, naming security in
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and Chinese investments in the region as some of Beijing’s top concerns.

Despite past support for Uygur militants in
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, the Taliban has said it will not interfere in China’s internal affairs.

China previously hosted the Taliban in 2019, when a nine-member delegation travelled to Beijing and met Deng Xijun, then special representative for Afghanistan.

Yan Wei, an international relations professor at Northwest University in China, said it was necessary for both the Taliban and China to engage each other.

“Regardless of whether the Taliban will become the government, it is a key force affecting the political development and security of Afghanistan,” he said.

“The Taliban can constrain some other terrorist organisations in Afghanistan. China can through the Taliban put certain constraints on other terrorist organisations, which is useful for China’s security and regional security.”

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Does that mean that the Taliban support the Uighur Genocide?
 

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I fail to see the relevance of that time long gone by to have any semblance of application in the current geopolitical tussle with China. So I hope for all of our sakes, the U.S. mustn't bumble it's way into committing another strategic miscalculation because I am afraid that timing and luck can only protect them so far before a calamitous event awakens them from their hubris they call manifest destiny.
You do realize the insinuation being made by this quote is that the United States is stupid, but is wealthy / powerful enough to get away with its mistakes, right?

So stop treating it as pro-American propaganda. It's not. It's basically the United States is dumb, but has enough money, tech, and guns to keep trying things until it works.
 

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Time for boycott of Intel? Buy AMD or better yet, push for non x86 architecture.

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When asked about the U.S. government determination that China was committing a genocide against Uyghurs and other Muslims minority groups, only Steve Rodgers, executive vice president and general counsel for Intel, said he believed it.

"I've read the State Department report. I've studied it, and I believe its conclusions," Rodgers said, drawing praise from Republican Senator Tom Cotton for his "straight answer."
 

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Time for boycott of Intel? Buy AMD or better yet, push for non x86 architecture.

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When asked about the U.S. government determination that China was committing a genocide against Uyghurs and other Muslims minority groups, only Steve Rodgers, executive vice president and general counsel for Intel, said he believed it.

"I've read the State Department report. I've studied it, and I believe its conclusions," Rodgers said, drawing praise from Republican Senator Tom Cotton for his "straight answer."
Come on, Intel just wants a subsidy from Uncle Sam.
 

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Time for boycott of Intel? Buy AMD or better yet, push for non x86 architecture.

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When asked about the U.S. government determination that China was committing a genocide against Uyghurs and other Muslims minority groups, only Steve Rodgers, executive vice president and general counsel for Intel, said he believed it.

"I've read the State Department report. I've studied it, and I believe its conclusions," Rodgers said, drawing praise from Republican Senator Tom Cotton for his "straight answer."

You’d think that the Talibans would know more about genocide after getting bombed for almost two decades but then again, what do they know that a wealthy tech mogul doesn’t.
 

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Around the same time that the Anglo UK is attempting to show off its COVID disease ravaged 'carrier' and at the same time as the Anglo US Blinken in India, China just announced new drills with Russia:

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India better get ready for a world of hurt if they are to accept their colonial role as sepoy slave for the anglos.
 

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Before the meeting goes down in Tianjin here's my prediction on the outcome:

Basically there are three possible outcomes from the US point of view:

1. Best outcome - China basically gives in and unconditionally buys more US treasury, this outcome basically only exists in fevered dreams
2. Middle outcome - there's some successful negotiation and China agrees to buy more US treasury outcome in exchange for some actions from the US side. US will have to offer something pretty substantial for this, something on the level of end chip embargo and not just removal of import tariff or promise of no support for Taiwan independence.
3. Worst outcome - China doesn't relent and Sherman gets lectured in Tianjin

Now assuming the result isn't public information immediately we can tell weather outcome 2 or 3 was achieved in the coming days by observing what happens in Taiwan. If outcome 3 happens (I think most likely) then we will see a further ramping up of provocation by the US with more planes landing and so on as vengeance for not getting what they want.
Recall my prediction above. Well as we know outcome 3 happened and sure enough the predictions are playing out:

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These are just the beginning, lots more where that come from.

If you see the above news and it makes your blood pressure rise then relax, don't worry. In this game of chess China just played a big move, we will expect the US to also do some kind of move right and not do nothing. If they actually got what it takes though you would see them recognise Taiwan as a country, start putting troops in Taiwan and etc and we can move onto the end game. Alas the US doesn't have the balls so all they can do is these little moves to annoy you. So pay no attention to these things and just relax knowing their time is running out with the impending hyperinflation.
 

siegecrossbow

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Recall my prediction above. Well as we know outcome 3 happened and sure enough the predictions are playing out:

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These are just the beginning, lots more where that come from.

If you see the above news and it makes your blood pressure rise then relax, don't worry. In this game of chess China just played a big move, we will expect the US to also do some kind of move right and not do nothing. If they actually got what it takes though you would see them recognise Taiwan as a country, start putting troops in Taiwan and etc and we can move onto the end game. Alas the US doesn't have the balls so all they can do is these little moves to annoy you. So pay no attention to these things and just relax knowing their time is running out with the impending hyperinflation.

It just seems petty and caters to a spiritual victory need, not something substantial.
 
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