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voyager1

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Well I can do understand that they are still in building process bulking up on destroyer, LHD, Carrier, fighter jet Because they must have the mean to break up any naval blockade by the combined fleet of 7th fleet and JMSDF Occupied those miyako island and if need be attack Okinawa. No repeat of WWII naval blockade.

But even though they need to start building the invasion armada and train the marine for corp wide assault. I take some time.
Yep. There are still a lot of stuff for China to prepare. It must first ensure that it can fight and win against the US with minimal loses. Then it must make sure that it can credibly deter other US vassals from joining (looking at you, Japan)

There is also, as you mentioned, training the PLANMC for amphibious operations (huge, takes a long time).

There are plenty of stuff to worry about first
 

weig2000

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While a very large fleet of LPDs, LHDs and other similar ships is going to be very helpful to land troops on Taiwan, it's not absolutely necessary. China has plenty of civilian ships and dual-use ships. They just need to have air control and secure the surrounding areas of the landing beaches. They can do that.

In any case, China is planning to continue to build many 071's, 075's and 076. It won't take too many years to build them. China is not in a hurry; like everything else, China has plan for PLAN and has been executing on it. It's important to build a large and balanced fleet instead of rushing to potentially mis-allocate resources.
 

bajingan

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China is not in a hurry; like everything else, China has plan for PLAN and has been executing on it. It's important to build a large and balanced fleet instead of rushing to potentially mis-allocate resources.

This, the us is essentially begging China to invade taiwan right now while the power balance still slighty in washington favour
Why play their game? Why let the enemy dictate when you should attack? Moreover China can divert american pressure on taiwan onto another theather eg: north korea, iran or covertly support russia in ukraine
i am sure China has enough influence on north korea to ask them to sink another sk frigate in return for more economic assistance
 
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LawLeadsToPeace

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This, the us is essentially begging China to invade taiwan right now while the power balance still slighty in washington favour
Why play their game? Why let the enemy dictate when you should attack? Moreover China can divert american pressure on taiwan onto another theather eg: north korea, iran or covertly support russia in ukraine
I would have to disagree with that premise. If the US really wanted China to invade Taiwan, Taiwan would have declared independence. In addition, we would have already heard news of the US Marines landing in Taiwan along with two carrier strike groups near the coast of Taiwan in order to safeguard Taiwan against Chinese acts of aggression. Yet, instead of that happening, the US sent three politicians as a pledge to defend Taiwan.
 

Hendrik_2000

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While a very large fleet of LPDs, LHDs and other similar ships is going to be very helpful to land troops on Taiwan, it's not absolutely necessary. China has plenty of civilian ships and dual-use ships. They just need to have air control and secure the surrounding areas of the landing beaches. They can do that.

In any case, China is planning to continue to build many 071's, 075's and 076. It won't take too many years to build them. China is not in a hurry; like everything else, China has plan for PLAN and has been executing on it. It's important to build a large and balanced fleet instead of rushing to potentially mis-allocate resources.
You can't because using STUFT mean you need to get control of port and that is what the Taiwanese demolished first at the onset of hostility. See how long and how difficult for the allies to take over Antwerp during the WWII?. Without functioning port how they are going to unload supply. Army march on full stomach.
But but building transport and training corp wide beach assault takes time. So if time horizon is 5 or 6 years now is the time.

LHD is not necessary for Taiwan campaign It is even a burden because of single node failure imagine you have 100 ZBD5 and thousand of marine get sunk. Better spread the risk among smaller LPD,LST. But it is necessary to occupy the japanese owned island to prevent reinforcement.

China cannot afford long drawn campaign because that allow reinforcement from Japan and US So it has to be swift.

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Antwerp was to prove a vital port to the Allies as they pushed towards Germany after the success of D-Day in 1944. To start with, Antwerp was not considered to be overly important as Montgomery wanted to push to the Ruhr as soon as was possible. His belief that an attack on Arnhem would bring a swift end to the war did not succeed – and it was only after the failure of Operation Market Garden that Montgomery realised the importance of Antwerp in solving the increasing supply difficulties that the Allies had as their supply lines became more and more extended as they approached Germany.


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Buffaloes transporting troops to Walcheren
As early as September 8th, 1944, Winston Churchill had written to his chiefs-of-staff about the importance of the Walcheren area and the port of Antwerp. September was also the month that the British started to suffer from supply problems – what was referred to as a “supply famine”.

Ironically, it was the sheer success of the Allies that had brought about this problem. The Germans had put up stiff resistance around Normandy – but it had also led to the loss of the German VII Army. Once the break out from Normandy occurred, the Allies sped forward far faster than they had planned for. Paris was freed 55 days ahead of schedule and by mid-September, the Americans were approaching Aachen, which they had expected to do by mid-May 1945. Such an advance put a huge strain on the supplies that were still primarily coming in via Cherbourg. Some supplies were flown in, but only if they could be carried by plane – and this greatly limited what was carried. The American ‘Red Ball Express’ (heavy lorries converted to carry stores) started in late August. But the Germans still held out at Calais, Boulogne, Dunkirk and Le Harve, ports that could have been used

The capture of Antwerp would have solved all supply problems. The port could handle 1,000 ships at a time weighing up to 19,000 tons each. Antwerp had 10 square miles of docks, 20 miles of water front, and 600 cranes. Senior Allied commanders counted on Antwerp handing 40,000 tons of supplies a day – when it was captured. Antwerp was about 80 miles from the open sea on the River Scheldt. Between the port and the sea were the islands of Walcheren and North Beveland and South Beveland that was attached to mainland Holland by a small isthmus – all held by the Germans who could do a great deal to disrupt the flow of shipping into the port.

The campaign is spearheaded by the Canadian and they take the beating of 12000 men killed or wounded
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Which minorities are attacking Asians? Oh the ones that happen to worship the same God that white supremacists worship... It's no coincidence. When there was racial tension between blacks and Koreans in the US in the 1990s, I saw a black person on TV accuse Asians of being racist because they don't smile. I didn't know not smiling was a crime. Did an Asian not smiling somehow affect their lives in a negative way? No. Did the white controlled media bother to counter how is not smiling a racist crime? No, they let it out there as if it was a legitimate complaint. The West complains about human rights violations around the world but somehow hating Asians for not smiling is legitimate. If white people were being accuse of being racist for not smiling, they would be ridiculing that absurdity just like they do today at any accusation of racism at them. They don't say that for Asians because they want minorities to be angry at Asians for not smiling hence why they didn't challenge it like a good journalist would. Why do blacks and Latinos hate Asians? Did Asians enslave them like white people did. Did Asians occupy their lands, oppress the people, and took and stole their resources like white people did? No. Did naturally weak little Asian they laugh at as not being masculine burn their churches and hang their people in trees? No. So why do they attack Asians just like whites do? Because Christianity teaches that their God created the universe and those that don't worship the Christian God don't deserve more than those that do. Look at all the Asian heathens who are doing well who don't show appreciation to the Christian God for their existence. Asians are occupying space in their God's universe and they don't show appreciation by obeying blindly what white people who only get to interpret what the Christian God wants... There are Asian Christians but not equal to them. Asians weren't forced to know only Christianity like they were. Asians still have and practice their own heathen culture and not embrace the Western cultural values meaning Asians aren't and never will be true Christians. Are we suppose to believe that embracing their Christianity means we'll be treated as equals? Ask blacks and Latinos, who have had their cultures destroyed by whites more than any other, who believe they're the most disenfranchised and victimized people of all the world which says it's all bull.

It's funny because there was that case of the Vice President of the San Francisco School District who was accused of racism against Asians calling them "house 'n-word'" for white supremacy in past tweets she made. Funny how people don't see things from other people's perspective because the same can be said vice versa. Who worships the white God? That's not a big indictment? Who stands behind patriotism and the flag when it comes to trade between the US and Asia? When minorities attack Asians over COVID-19, they're following white supremacist right-wing propaganda. Now who's the one in bed with white supremacy? Who is ultimately to blame for attacks upon Asians when they paint Asians with a broad brush over COVID-19 when they themselves don't want just the focus on white people for attacks upon Asians in the US?
 
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