Fake news just like this? The Hindu was the one who first broke the fact 1000 square kilometers of Indian territory was captured by China ... I'd trust them anyday over the words of the government lmao.
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US have called China enemy in the NDS and have more power than India. It is US trying to constrain CHina with the tech war, not India.
It is US selling arms to Taiwan, not India. But you are more interested in India destruction. You don't talk about US being "destroyed or dismembered" even when US is doing more than India, because you know CHina can't. The reason you want India destruction is just because you know China have more power than India. You have decided India is bad and China is good, same motivation like US hawk.
These two countries can't work together and forge a future for multiple reasons. Saying India "persist in fighting and dying for white anglo supremacism" just show your blindness to the reality of IR and the internal dynamics of each country. China also allied with US against URSS in the past.
I am about as interested in India's destruction as much as i am interested in the destruction of the United States; so long as both nations express a desire to stand against China's rejuvenation and for China's enslavement and continued harassment of China's development and the persecution of her people, i will be in favour of the destruction of their own respective peoples and the acquisition of their territory for use as farmland for the new Chinese Commonwealth.
Had the Indian government not deviated from the policies of as recent as say Manmohan Singh, we would not be in the current predicament we are in right now. Modi for instance thinking he can sweet ass talk his way out of breaking his word to Xi last year and back in Wuhan just aint gonna cut it. Modi's miscalculation is going to cost India its claimed territories and he knows it.
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Emotionaly based policy, same like US hawk. Looking for emotional security through feeling powerful.
Is this coming from the same Hindutva trolls who now infest twitter and the english speaking internet? Seems projection isn't a wholly anglo american phenomenon.
Indians in the west have oft held an animus against a China which has proven the incompetence of modern day India; this has only become more apparent since Doklam and Ladakh; i hoped it would not come to this after the 2008 nuke deal but given how many indians then and now are hoping for anglo help in taking on China, it really would be a great source of pleasure for me to see india destroyed or at best castrated much like how the anglo americans castrated any meaningful hispanic latina american power in the western hemisphere.
In fact, i am happy to see that China is now looking to repay India with the same coin, only the Hindutva indians are less equipped to handle this fight:
Lol you're still confused about claim lines. It's really rather simple and been explained dozens of times in this thread alone. What has India "captured"? India claims everything up to finger 8 while China claims up to finger 3 but has captured from fingers 8 to 4. Therefore India's claims of finger 4 (immediately east of this point) to finger 8 are captured by PLA. No one truly controls the positions between fingers 4 and 3. It would be hard to argue that India cannot be challenged here lol. Finger 4 to 3 is claimed by both sides and is still disputed land. Currently Indian troops do sit on this stretch but India also claimed fingers 4 to 8 and China owns that stretch now.
India claimed to have captured several hill tops. Turned out to be bogus. India claimed to have captured areas in Reqin, turns out to be a momentary intrusion and the Indians left. India claimed to have captured several hill tops south of Pangong lake and turned out to be bogus with satellites and photographs (from Indian side) proving PLA sit on those hill tops with Jai Hinds only capable of "taunting" PLA with their superior bullshitting powers I suppose.
China capturing fingers 2 and 3 is probably fake news. Everything up to Finger 3 has been claimed by China in the past this is true but we all know the gain of finger 8 to finger 4 is satisfactory and pushing further is rubbing salt into India's wounds. China has conducted patrols up to finger 3 in the past (possibly even further) just to make the point like India has done beyond finger 8.
China making moves was in response to India making moves after 2010. It isn't about sovereignty otherwise why would China have let it sit disputed for the last 70 odd years?! You'd have to be an idiot to really believe this is only due to China lacking the military capability until this year. This was all a response to Indian belligerence re Kashmir self determination laws, Indian threatening of CPEC/BRI, Doklam crisis, and India forcing itself into bilateral talks between China and Bhutan. Bhutan and China both came to agreements before Indian lobby power and political influence in Bhutan forced reversals. This is a truly worthless stretch of land with no modern military importance. Allowing the whole stretch (~1000km^2) into Indian hands isn't going to be a military blunder at all in this day and age.
With capturing of fingers 8 to 4 by China, the point is already made and the objective achieved. It forced India to consider all means and allowed them to realise they are much more pathetic than they have led themselves to believe (for the military fanboys and their military leaders). It's also made the political point to Modi that China does indeed respond to arrogant belligerence. China has done sweet F all to India in the past and have never stepped beyond any respectable lines but India continued to slice and push. India continued and continues to act as antagonist without provocations! and continues to act against China in ways that have never been returned to India. Sorry but supporting Pakistan doesn't count because India's been doing this with Tibet since the mid 20th century. If it weren't for the gigantic blunders made by Nehru and Indian leaders in the past, all this escalation since the border war would have less reason to materialise. Of course the above ought to change and China ought to properly work against India now but knowing Chinese people and the CCP, I have doubts China will bother that much with India beyond making the point in Ladakh and settling most of China's claims. The CCP is actually not the USSR or USA. They don't support separatist groups and actively perform clandestine operations within another's land. The CCP usually uses money to do their bidding. It's pathetic and useless but it also means the CCP has very little effective non-military weapons at its disposal. It's a shame because India deserves to be ripped a new one.
China making moves was in response to India making moves after 2010. It isn't about sovereignty otherwise why would China have let it sit disputed for the last 70 odd years?! You'd have to be an idiot to really believe this is only due to China lacking the military capability until this year. This was all a response to Indian belligerence re Kashmir self determination laws, Indian threatening of CPEC/BRI, Doklam crisis, and India forcing itself into bilateral talks between China and Bhutan. Bhutan and China both came to agreements before Indian lobby power and political influence in Bhutan forced reversals. This is a truly worthless stretch of land with no modern military importance. Allowing the whole stretch (~1000km^2) into Indian hands isn't going to be a military blunder at all in this day and age.
With capturing of fingers 8 to 4 by China, the point is already made and the objective achieved. It forced India to consider all means and allowed them to realise they are much more pathetic than they have led themselves to believe (for the military fanboys and their military leaders). It's also made the political point to Modi that China does indeed respond to arrogant belligerence. China has done sweet F all to India in the past and have never stepped beyond any respectable lines but India continued to slice and push. India continued and continues to act as antagonist without provocations! and continues to act against China in ways that have never been returned to India. Sorry but supporting Pakistan doesn't count because India's been doing this with Tibet since the mid 20th century. If it weren't for the gigantic blunders made by Nehru and Indian leaders in the past, all this escalation since the border war would have less reason to materialise. Of course the above ought to change and China ought to properly work against India now but knowing Chinese people and the CCP, I have doubts China will bother that much with India beyond making the point in Ladakh and settling most of China's claims. The CCP is actually not the USSR or USA. They don't support separatist groups and actively perform clandestine operations within another's land. The CCP usually uses money to do their bidding. It's pathetic and useless but it also means the CCP has very little effective non-military weapons at its disposal. It's a shame because India deserves to be ripped a new one.
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In before Jai Hinds talk about Maoist groups in India. Do you have proof CCP finance and support them? If conjecture is enough proof than the Americans would be the most guilty on this planet. Indian Maoist groups and Communists are motivated by the mind boggling societal ineptitude that is Inkredeeeble Hindia. They exist because Indian government and society simply sucks. So yeah the authoritarian CCP that is all about "Socialism with Chinese characteristics" 
isn't bothered with little fry when it barely is bothered working against the real thugs.
isn't bothered with little fry when it barely is bothered working against the real thugs.
The Indian society and government's behaviour since the '62 war has been an expression of the old aphorism of "he strikes you and cries out in pain".
I got no sympathy, not even for the war that is to come where surely many hundreds of thousands of indians will die. Should that day come, Sikkim must also be restored as must the independence of other states along the border.
I got no sympathy, not even for the war that is to come where surely many hundreds of thousands of indians will die. Should that day come, Sikkim must also be restored as must the independence of other states along the border.
Indian leaders and military know they'd get pummeled into oblivion before they can make a long distance call to USA. The Jai Hinds might be crying for blood and raging in frustration but their leaders are just manipulating the uneducated, uninformed Jai Hind masses using media and lies. Most of their lies have been thoroughly debunked and exposed. Only the Jai Hinds remain trusting of their own bullshit.
It's fine keeping them in this state while their shot callers cower in soiled dhotis. The Chinese will be savage in a war against Indians. Finally the CCP has at least made some effort to drum up nationalism to respond to India and given common people the awareness of India's treacherous ways (constant lying) and efforts to work against the interest of Chinese people who have done nothing of real harm to India at all. These halfwits believe Chinese are evil for ahem "releasing Covid 19 onto the world" and they are still bitter about the border war in the 1960s. They still talk about it while Chinese mostly don't even know there was a war in the 1960s with India. It's such a footnote in China's history but the Indians keep that at the forefront of their thoughts while mostly ignoring the actual atrocities the Europeans committed in Asia.
Both the PLA and Jai Hind crowds are eager to turn each other into pink mist except India has no ability only self-indulgent delusions. The only military force that poses an existential threat to China is the USA. India is barely a danger let alone an existential threat. India has long been hyped and allowed to be hyped to comical levels. Sorry Inst but your Indian friends' most capable military capability come express posted from France and Russia. Between exploding submarines, faulty ammunition, barrel splitting artillery, copied 1970s Soviet SAMs (Akash), failed Mirage copies, failed Leopard copies, and ships that fall over in the dock, India is a military of unmotivated and incompetent fools who take pride in misrepresenting Chinese media photos of crying soldiers but stall tanks, leave submarine hatches open, shoot down their own helicopters, and get sent into retreat by JF-17 block 2s. This is all just in the last 10 years and just the tip of the iceberg for the world's most ridiculously hyped military.
Yeah the Indian leaders won't trust that motorcycle acrobatic team to defend them from PLA unleashed. They'll keep throwing around useless chatter to pleasure the Jai Hinds but they won't act beyond banning apps because when they do, even the Americans can't save their heads.
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