Ladakh Flash Point

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Mohsin77

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That's a "work in progress," so basically, that route doesn't exist yet. Besides, if that was an efficient route, it would've been the primary route from the beginning. The terrain is probably a lot worse, a natural choke point.
 

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This is old route
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This is new route.
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That wouldn’t do you much good, you are overlooking strategic and tactical implications, if the PLA occupied the Galwan valley area any moves the Indian make in this area will be plastered for the PLA to see plus Indian troops will be shelled to oblivion before they can do anything on that route.

Not only would they have a mountainous region to contend with but some areas seems to be a valley area too. The Indian army would be a sitting duck and the Indian airforce probably wouldn’t be in any better position in that area either.

Should the PLA occupy the Galwan valley area, the Indians can kiss the area from Saser Pass and beyond goodbye. A big section of the Indian northern sector in Ladakh would effectively be compromised and even THOISE air base may be threatened. It’s a big strategic nightmare in that area.
 
This has been presented by various respectable Indian figures as the main driving force behind China's recent moves. Is it truly China incurring and simply sitting on disputed territories while both nations are obviously in talks? Since the talk are certainly happening, I suspect the discussion is about these changes to Indian constitution. So would this mean an Indian reversal of these changes would result in a return to previous positions? Can't figure out why China's doing this unless it's been asked by Pakistan or feeling some threat from the Indians which we haven't been seeing. The changes to the Indian Constitution do not have any impact on China as far as I'm aware, but the obviously do for Pakistan.

I am just listing the change in the the status of disputed territory as one of the factors. The bigger issue is Modi government has been an dishonest actor and have been belligerent and hostile to Chinese interest, too many to list.
QUAD
WHO stance
Restriction on Chinese Investment
Trade restrictions
aggressive border actions
unwillingness to settle border
etc
 

chain smoker

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I am just listing the change in the the status of disputed territory as one of the factors. The bigger issue is Modi government has been an dishonest actor and have been belligerent and hostile to Chinese interest, too many to list.
QUAD
WHO stance
Restriction on Chinese Investment
Trade restrictions
aggressive border actions
unwillingness to settle border
etc
u r also hostile to our interest.
1. deliberately blocking proposals at UN for black listing terrorists.
2. opposing our entry in NSG.
 
u r also hostile to our interest.
1. deliberately blocking proposals at UN for black listing terrorists.
2. opposing our entry in NSG.

India needs to abide by rule of NPT and CTBT to join NSG.
India has provided no credible evidence other than accusation of terrorism according to the rules. UN does not work based on accusation.

Other countries are also against breaking these rules.
 
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Hendrik_2000

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Another deluded person Socalled Indican victory in 1967 is fabrication out of the fertile Indian imagination They make mountain out of ant mole There were border incident like so many hundred before them But to cover their shame they invented this "victory" There is no independent literature that back up this socalled victory All I can find is foot note here it is

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India also reported some military conflicts with China after the 1962 war. In late 1967, there were two incidents in which both countries exchanged fire in Sikkim. The first one was dubbed the "Nathu La incident", and the other being "
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" in which advancing Chinese forces were forced to withdraw from Sikkim, then a protectorate of India and later a state of India after annexation in 1975. In the
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timepass

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China annexes 60 square km of India in Ladakh as simmering tensions erupt between China & India....


China has occupied more than sixty square kilometres of Indian territory in eastern Ladakh, according to a senior Indian Army source, in a dramatic escalation of the simmering tension between the two Asian superpowers.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal that up to 12,000 Chinese troops pushed over the border into India last month amid border clashes as Beijing looks to slap down Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi over his ever-closer relationship with the United States.


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China annexes 60 square km of India in Ladakh as simmering tensions erupt between China & India....


China has occupied more than sixty square kilometres of Indian territory in eastern Ladakh, according to a senior Indian Army source, in a dramatic escalation of the simmering tension between the two Asian superpowers.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal that up to 12,000 Chinese troops pushed over the border into India last month amid border clashes as Beijing looks to slap down Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi over his ever-closer relationship with the United States.


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These are all fake news. Not a single picture (on ground or from satellites) exists which shows Chinese troops passed LAC. It is all lies. China just beefed up some locations on the Chinese side of LAC.
 
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