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Bellum_Romanum

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The same header and grabbing headline can be equally applied to China vs India. Don't act and pretend that India is beyond reproach with respect to this border issue because if one is being absolutely honest here, China would make the same stink even if it's governance was "Democratic" and would have come to blows with your beloved country if it was under such a system plain and simple. No patriotic Chinese would readily accede or even contemplate on giving up any piece of it's territory that was passed down from the previous imperial dynasties that were obtained and passed down from the blood of our forefathers.

The analysis being spun by these type of analyst lacks any true critical analysis or even close to objective look of the issue. The analysis is a dumb down readily packaged trite that this assertive China is due to the CPC and Xi Jinping trying to be an expansionist which is utter crock of manure.

I mean if you're a thinking person, you'd assume that any elective leaders in a Democratic China would campaign of willingly giving up a piece of it's land with your country for the sake of kumbaya and the Chinese people would be more than happy to oblige without any objections let alone the issue free from exploitation from the opposition parties or leaders calling any such incumbent government either a bunch of sell outs, traitors, etc..

I laugh at such ignorant and idiotic assumptions. I can assure you that China would not surrender it's claims in the South China Sea and it's border dispute with your country even if China becomes a Democracy, just ask Republic of China and you'll know your answer.
 

ougoah

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This guy isn't making much sense.

India invaded the previous no man's land and disrupted the previous de facto buffer. China resisted India and responded by placing PLA within that stretch of previous buffer. A year of confrontations and then negotiations restore the buffer (mostly) with some unknown levels of troop presence remaining from both sides.

Of course some American think tankers who are always anti-China on every single topic and domain is not going to say the full set of truth. Instead providing nonsensical sentences like India has resisted China with the loaded part being China is somehow actively invading India. You know this isn't what happened. You know the whole conflict has been over disputed stretch that was previously a buffer. You also know that China occupied it with India unable to militarily overturn that. The negotiations restored buffer to many confrontation points and India pulled back two steps in exchange for China pulling back on forward positions that it only occupied after flare ups.
 

ougoah

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Actually having read some more of Mr. Jeff Smith's tweets, the whole endeavor is one of pathetic echo chambering e.g. AP not sharing a border with China but with Tibet like lol that sort of material just isn't taken seriously by anyone higher up with any sort of influence and it is useless in presenting that level of nonsense in any meaningful dialogue. It would be akin to Russian diplomats refusing to negotiate and talk with Americans because they insist the entire nation of USA is built on conquered lands and result of real genocide and so will demand that the USA dissolves and return the land to natives before Russians will talk to them and cooperate on issues. Would any real leaders bother to entertain such laughable nonsense?

Indians do exist at this level. They think if they say it, it matters and everyone needs to care and bend to their will. Then they find out they have a measly amount of global power. The overall quantified levels (not even giving credit to how undervalued China's currency is intentionally kept by the Chinese government). India an absolute nobody and yet thinks if it says Tibet is a country, China must agree and in order to cooperate with India on issues, China must entertain Indian shit. Leave Indian shit where it should be, on Indian streets thanks.

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I mean by all means Indians can engage in that sort of stuff but it is kind of pointless when you are refusing to acknowledge a full set of how you truly are and how the "enemy" truly is, all the while refusing and denying reality.

I mean this sort of indian stuff is up there with "no no no! those photos cannot be real! China must've used paid actors!" levels of Indian denial.

The same goes for super pro Indian twitter agents. It's like Chinese only believing in the most ridiculously pro China Pakistani tweets that bend the truths and reality. Except we just don't see many people put stock in those because some people prefer to talk and think in facts and with critical reasoning.
 

manqiangrexue

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"The Indians will not be cowed, coerced, or intimidated."
Except when you scare them and they run into frozen streams and off cliffs causing their own deaths. Other than that, though... oh and other than the times when they're caught on video being beaten into scattered retreat by Chinese soldiers off of hills, other than those times, so basically, the times when no Chinese soldiers are around and the Indians are talking amongst themselves, they are just so brave. When these guys come 200+ armed against 5 unarmed negotiators, you should see how much gusto they have, totally the bravest dudes! Totally maybe LOL.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Actually having read some more of Mr. Jeff Smith's tweets, the whole endeavor is one of pathetic echo chambering e.g. AP not sharing a border with China but with Tibet like lol that sort of material just isn't taken seriously by anyone higher up with any sort of influence and it is useless in presenting that level of nonsense in any meaningful dialogue. It would be akin to Russian diplomats refusing to negotiate and talk with Americans because they insist the entire nation of USA is built on conquered lands and result of real genocide and so will demand that the USA dissolves and return the land to natives before Russians will talk to them and cooperate on issues. Would any real leaders bother to entertain such laughable nonsense?

Indians do exist at this level. They think if they say it, it matters and everyone needs to care and bend to their will. Then they find out they have a measly amount of global power. The overall quantified levels (not even giving credit to how undervalued China's currency is intentionally kept by the Chinese government). India an absolute nobody and yet thinks if it says Tibet is a country, China must agree and in order to cooperate with India on issues, China must entertain Indian shit. Leave Indian shit where it should be, on Indian streets thanks.

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I mean by all means Indians can engage in that sort of stuff but it is kind of pointless when you are refusing to acknowledge a full set of how you truly are and how the "enemy" truly is, all the while refusing and denying reality.

I mean this sort of indian stuff is up there with "no no no! those photos cannot be real! China must've used paid actors!" levels of Indian denial.

The same goes for super pro Indian twitter agents. It's like Chinese only believing in the most ridiculously pro China Pakistani tweets that bend the truths and reality. Except we just don't see many people put stock in those because some people prefer to talk and think in facts and with critical reasoning.
Did you get the graph from Ray Dalios new book?
 
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