India did patrol the disputed areas, but didn't have permanent structures/camps. The patrol points mentioned multiple times are points to which India sends patrols, who then return to base camps. This protocol is in line with the 1993 India China agreement, which allowed patols by both sides in areas of differing perceptions, but not physical occupation. Obviously, that changed last year, when India built permanent posts in the disputed areas in response to China's buildup. In areas outside the buffers, those posts remain. For example, prior to 2020, India did not have any permanent camps in Galwan, only the base camps at the Shyok.
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Where is this though? When was this and do we have time varying shots? I also do not see artillery positions at all from India.
Thank you for that mature and level-headed contribution.
He's clearly a troll and probably even an Indian one.
Although that comment is beneath SDF's level, it's indeed a mature and level-headed contribution compared to what's said in the places you frequent. The link you got that imgur picture from is telling. Your every post is revealing, and not in the way you want.
Let's try to build up a map of suspected Indian positions within the 20%. They are not on buffer sites otherwise China would have said so. They have some token positions outside of buffer zones but already defeated. India tried taking the 20% and was thwarted.
Again if they didn't try it and this standoff was initiated by Chinese side to take over the 20%, then why would China stop and why would China return Indian beaten up soldiers the next day? They would have kept them until the war is over and China already demonstrated it could take over the 20% and India would not shoot a single shot. Why? Doesn't make sense for India's story but China's story makes perfect sense. I challenge someone to explain India's narrative. Think about it and admit it to yourself if no one else.
Those who lie to themselves are already conquered.
Again if they didn't try it and this standoff was initiated by Chinese side to take over the 20%, then why would China stop and why would China return Indian beaten up soldiers the next day? They would have kept them until the war is over and China already demonstrated it could take over the 20% and India would not shoot a single shot. Why? Doesn't make sense for India's story but China's story makes perfect sense. I challenge someone to explain India's narrative. Think about it and admit it to yourself if no one else.
Those who lie to themselves are already conquered.
No one should try and compare with DFI people. In fact this is why I suggested the comment is possibly from a DFI member. It is that sort of contribution and intelligence.
Ironic coming from you though, right. Or do you actually believe yourself to be a mature and level-headed contributor in this thread??
Lol the delusion is unreal, man..
It's not like there isn't any excessive India bashing and abuse against India/ Indians here. There is a reason why this thread was previously closed by @Deino . Sure there was that Indian troll but there were also plenty of abusive anti-Indian comments, which only ended up feeding him.
Read DFI and compare. DFI members talk about wanting to commit rape and murder and always use racial slurs. On DFI you can find 10000 examples of "gook" "chinki" chink" "chow mein" "bat soup" "monkey" in reference to Chinese people. The Indians constantly attack, demean, condemn Chinese people but are worthless themselves. Are they not? Am I wrong?
When has anyone on this thread talked about raping Indians and used racial slurs?
When was there excessive India bashing? You lot are too sensitive. You dish out 100 and can't take even 10. Indians are easily much more vile and excessively insulting to others but you cannot tolerate that we're talking facts. Sorry but we've been fairly factual here and I challenge you to find me examples where major members are not (so not counting random trolls who get banned).
Do you remember when Indians kept saying they killed 100 PLA and treated that as fact while we were sensibly talking about reality and then we were proven right?
Factual scoreboard summary again:
Indian - lost 20 men
China - lost 4 men
India gained 0% of legacy dispute
China holds 80% of legacy dispute
India started this crisis in an attempt to capture 20%. China thwarted India and defeated them. India persists with some token small presence of troops within it and it is still being resolved. At least it's been reduced and two buffers gained from 0.
Indians in the past constantly denied these and said otherwise and now proven wrong and liars and Chinese were honest about it from the start whether it comes to people lost, captives returned, fighting, standoff situation and so on.
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