Korean War 70 years later Win Lose and A draw

Hendrik_2000 said:

You need to get your history straight before butting in The korean peninsula was divided between US and Russia after Japanese withdrawal So who is meddling whom here Isn't if for Korean themselve to decide their fate. YOU just pick and choose history to drive your agenda.Either of the korean want to reunify Korean under their rule. The Chinese does not get involve until North Korean got beaten and retreated to the border.It is the Soviet and not the Chinese that occupy north korea after Japan left

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In 1950 the Korea Peninsula was divided between a Soviet-backed government in the north and an American-backed government in the south. The division of Korea into two halves had come at the end of World War II. In August of 1945 the Soviet Union invaded Korea, which had been under Japan's control since 1910. Fearing that the Soviets intended to seize the entire peninsula from their position in the north, the United States quickly moved its own troops into southern Korea. Japanese troops surrendered to the Russians in the north and to the Americans in the south. In an effort to avoid a long-term decision regarding Korea's future, the United States and the Soviet Union agreed to divide Korea temporarily along the 38th parallel, a latitudinal line that bisected the country. This line became more rigid after 1946, when Kim Il Sung organized a communist government in the north---the Democratic People's Republic. Shortly after, nationalist exile Syngman Rhee returned to Korea and set up a rival government in the south---the Republic of Korea (ROK). Each government hoped to reunify the country under its own rule.

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LawLeadsToPeace said:

While it is true that both sides wanted to reunify, initially the South and North didn't have the capacity to do so. Otherwise how would the North later had the ability to smash through South Korean forces like Legos? However, the instigators were still the USSR and to a certain degree, China (though their initial involvement was basically nothing due to their focus on the Guomindang in Taiwan), and no, I am not cherry picking anything. In my sources that I provided above, Stalin's quotes and messages with Kim Il Sung and Mao were pretty clear and cited. On the other hand, if the Soviets only provided enough weapons and supplies for the North to defend themselves and explicitly told Kim to not invade only for Kim to invade SK, then it is definitely a civil war. HOWEVER, history shows that such a scenario didn't occur. Finally, I don't get the first part of your rant, and I have every right to butt in, especially when I see over-nationalistic disinformation being spouted like a broken fountain.

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Hendrik_2000 said:

No you pick and choose history to justify your stand that China is at fault or North Korean at fault. The west always point the finger at China and NOrth Korea as the instigator of the Korean war. And you believe it by citing unknow or unverified website to support your claim The real reason for Korean war is murky and the south is not angel either They kill and massacre north korean supporter in the south and cause anger in the north. Didn't they supposed to hold election after japan retreat but never realized because the south against it . NO you just spouted revisionist history and I will rebut it here

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LawLeadsToPeace said:

My goodness. The cause was extremely clear, and I am not trying to say one side has the moral high ground over the other. As for the South killing Northern supporters , the South was performing COIN operations against Communist guerrillas supported by the North (This is a wikipedia

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, but the sources to the history about the COIN operations are all legitimate). During those times, NOBODY intervened, and the North couldn't invade the South due to lack of supplies and weapons. If the USSR refused to arm the North, then the war wouldn't have started, and if the North invaded the South during those COIN operations, then yes it is a civil war and strictly an internal affair.

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Hendrik_2000 said:

Are you having reading comprehension problem here let me repeat here BOTH SIDE GIVE ARM TO NOKO AND SOKO! If it legitimate for Soko to kill supporter of North Korean and it is legitimate of North Korean to invade and kill south korean ? Remember there was single KOREA and north or south korea. The division is caused by both the Soviet and US

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Hendrik_2000 said:

And the american DOES NOT PROVIDE WEAPON TO SOUTH KOREA? ANSWER!

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• 8 Full Divisions.
• Each Division had a full artillery regiment
• 2 half divisions
• 2 separate regiments including 120 T34/85 Tanks, 5 Boarder Police Brigades
• 180 Soviet Aircraft both fighters and bombers.
• Naval Patrol craft
  
  Farther more the plan for invasion was done by Soviet advisers

• 8 under strength Divisions 3 spread across the boarder for COIN.
• 89 total 105mm light guns.
• 0 tanks
• Flight trainers + light aircraft
• The ROKN matched the KPAN.

TerraN_EmpirE said:

The Japanese Imperial Army? You mean at the start of WW2. Korea that was gone.
The French were in no position to act against China. Hell the French had just moved from a Communist government. The ROK armored forces were armed with rifles Jeeps trucks and at most a couple left over Japanese guns. That threat didn’t emerge until after the war started. The US and UN forces stated the war demobilized. Landing craft had to be bought back from Japanese fishing crews. Bombers had to be refurbished from rusting where they had been left after the close of the war.

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KenC said:

Not sure what you are trying to say - seems rather incoherent to me.
I think you should just look at video as obviously you have not seen it.

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