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Brumby

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A skeleton of the Japanese F-3 program and early timelines are starting to come together according to a recent AWST article.

The key elements are :

· First time allocation of specific funding for the program totaling ¥28 billion ($260 million) in fiscal 2020

· Official program name is Next-Generation Fighter (NGF)

· A target set to begin working with a foreign partner in the fiscal year beginning in April 2021

· By end of fiscal 2020, the contents of international cooperation will be clarified and the overall development plan formulated

· Full-scale development of the NGF could begin as early as fiscal 2023

Unofficial cost estimate of the development program is expected to be several trillion yen (tens of billions of dollars).
 

Jura

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Oct 14, 2019
Mar 4, 2019now noticed this tweet related to her:
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しらぬいが舞鶴へ! ようこそ!
Translated from Japanese by
Shiranui to Maizuru! Welcome!
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and now this chart:

(it's the last post currently in
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thread at airbase.ru)
 

Jura

General
how tall is that mast?
I took an interest myself;
my kid's ruler shows 7 mm from the bottom to the waterline, and 48 mm from the bottom to the top of the mast (yes, perpendicularly),
so
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Draft: 5.4 m
would mean (5.4/7)*48 = 37 meters (rounded), believable

they could have designed a fully integrated mast
could've would've might've
 

SamuraiBlue

Captain
Here is an article from a very unexpected magazine;

Type 10 tank: Shoot fast at the fastest line like a rally car, turn, shoot the main gun, and hit the target!
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Accurate shooting impossible with conventional tanks
The Ground Self Defense Force's Type 10 tank is the latest domestic tank, a new generation of armored force. The manufacturer is Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. The Type 10 tank is a combat vehicle that has a high level of offensive, run, and defend, but its greatest features are its high offensive and shooting capabilities.
The high-precision fire control system can accurately perform shooting that was impossible with conventional tanks, such as meandering shooting that shoots while running slalom to the left and right, and rear march shooting that shoots with the turret facing backwards. Moreover, the hit rate of the first shot and the first shot is high. The fire control system was also developed by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. This is a proof that the system consisting of the aiming device and the stabilizer of the main gun has high performance. Shows the ability of mechanisms to work together and effectively control.

The leg circumference is also high performance. Regardless of the posture of the vehicle, you can keep running and shoot while keeping your aim. For example, like a rally car, you can enter the fastest and optimal line at high speed, turn, shoot the main gun while standing up, and hit the target. It can also be used for sudden starting, braking, and turning. Shoot and hit with each body posture.
One of these high-precision shootings is being shown at the Fuji Integrated Thermal Exercise every summer. Despite being lighter than a Type 90 tank, a Type 10 tank with a gross weight of 44 tons swings freely around the front, back, left and right, during which time the main gun does not sway while keeping its target. To be precise, while the hull is moving endlessly, the aim keeps catching the target and changes finely. And hit if you shoot. In addition to the high performance of the mechanism, it can be said that the skill of "tank riding (armored crew)" who operates it is also high...... to read further, click on the link above.
I wonder why in the world, Motor Fan Magazine, a very respected automobile magazine would select a tank to cover in their article.:rolleyes:
 

SamuraiBlue

Captain
Here is another interesting article;

Possibility of "Russian fighter Su-30MKI to visits ASDF for joint training" through the Indian Air Force
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Indian Air Force Russian fighter to Japan
On November 30, 2019, the Ministry of Defense invites the Indian Air Force flagship fighter Su-30MKI and squadron to Japan by 2020 and reveals that it will jointly train with the Air Self Defense Force fighter squadron Did.

If realized, Russia's first fighter in the history of the Air Self-Defense Force would be an international joint training in Japan, and the fact that a Russian (Soviet) fighter would arrive in Japan was probably in 1976 (Showa 51). It is expected to be the first event in 44 years since the MiG-25P was forced to land at Hakodate Airport in the exile of Lieutenant Viktor Belenko on September 6, 2013.

The Indian Air Force Su-30MKI is one of the many variants of the Su-27 series manufactured by the famous aircraft United Aircraft (Sukhoi), and is a multi-seat multi-purpose fighter with excellent operational capabilities for various guided weapons. The army has 242 aircraft. In particular, at the start of deployment in 2002, there was a reversal phenomenon that outperformed the aircraft deployed by the Russian Air Force in the head family in terms of performance.

As the Cold War ends and the market economy is exposed, the fighter, which may be the only Russian industrial product with international competitiveness, has been given high performance as a valuable foreign currency acquisition means. Also, Russia in the 2000s was economically sluggish and had no room to modernize, upgrade or renew older Air Force aircraft, so inevitably other aircraft (for the Indian Air Force) would have higher performance. This is exactly the opposite of the "monkey model" that limits performance for export.

Indian Air Force Su-30MKI What kind of fighter?
Su-30MKI was especially powerful among the "Russian fighters more powerful than the Russian Air Force aircraft". In addition to state-of-the-art electronic equipment such as an electronic scanning radar equipped with a higher performance than conventional radar, the canard and thrust deflection nozzles are among the few in the Su-27 series that have actually come into practical use. ).

The "canard" or tail fin provides greater maneuverability, especially when turning at high altitudes and low G speeds with high G. In addition, the thrust deflection nozzle controls the exhaust direction of the engine, so that it is possible to improve the maneuverability in the same way.

However, adding a canard or thrust deflection nozzle from the original state of the Su-27 has disadvantages that it is expensive and requires much time for maintenance. Mobility itself does not have much influence on the outcome in modern air combat, so there is a problem in cost performance...... to read further, click on the link above.
This will be interesting if it becomes a reality. An actual dog fight between a F-35 and a Su-30MKI.
 

Air Force Brat

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It is very early days to be arguing about development cost with any degree of specificity as the design itself is not even bedded down. I don't think even the Japanese officials working on this program have an idea of what the number might be. In real life, once the design and initial requirements are defined the engineering estimate on development, on unit cost and in ongoing service like cost could then be costed. I am sure at that stage they will get to that "on my god moment" A number of iterations will then be debated to manage program cost. It will then be taken to the politicians and that is when the fun begins.

In the real world, 90 % of program failures are due to poor execution. There are not many stealth programs out there to benchmark and due to the diversity of them it is difficult to make direct comparison. You need to have access to the cost structure of the program itself to understand the cost drivers. For example, an extract from the work done by RAND on comparing across programs.

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The question is why is there such a big difference between the F-22 and the F-117 program?

I think we need to be patient and make objective assessments progressively as and when details of the F-3 program are revealed. Making broad stroke comments based on a superficial view of the facts is very amateurish.
Because the F-117 was NOT a fighter aircraft, it was basically and L/O bomb truck, ugly to boot, an an extremely poor flyer, "Wobblin Goblin" is a nick that it earned and fit perfectly ,,, the F-22 is all that and a bag of chips capability wise, the F-22 is still and will be for at least the next 25 years the most advanced fighter aircraft on the planet, it well may be that in certain parameters the the F-22 will NEVER be surpassed by any future fighter aircraft!

So the F-117 was a "cracker jack box with wings", it came with some nice surprises, but it was basically just very "basic", nutin fancy!

The F-22 is and will remain the most super wazoo bird of all time, it does everything very, very, well, in spite of its older tech, (which is damn near impossible to hack I might add), every single rivet/weld on that bird was planned and executed to damn near perfection!
 

asif iqbal

Brigadier
JMSDF use very cool camo

and their Kongo and Maya class DDG have a very mean and aggressive look

not to mention the tonnage and very big structure and radar masts that go into stratosphere
 

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