J-20... The New Generation Fighter

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maozedong

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now, J-20 prototype is quite clear, its delta wing but steath design?
 
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MwRYum said:
Then hope he won't be "river-crabbed", at least not before the thing really fly (y'know, it's a matter of when if the authority want to).
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I actually think that the CAC is secretly enjoying all this attention.
 
cloyce

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Yeah, and I bet CAC is employing some of those fans to selectively release pre-controlled photos.
 
Roger604

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latenlazy said:
It's probable that they opted for a canard+tvc design in order to compensate for sacrifices in roll and turn rates caused by the length (and width) of the aircraft.
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It's more likely that the maneuverability of the aircraft is increased the greater the distance between canards and wing. That's why the the aircraft is long.

70092 said:
For such missions, especially the case of S.China sea, the combat radius of the fighter should be around 1500-2000km such that the fighter can take off from Hainan, and strike deep in the disputed area in S. China sea. Thats why the airforce emphasis longer range of the fighter and supercruise performance, hence the slim and huge size of the fighter.
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2000 km! That's enough to reach Singapore from Chinese border. We could have J-20 fly CAP over Malacca Straits.

70092 said:
You know after CAC soundly beaten SAC at the J-20 project, the loser side, SAC, dont give up, after learning that the airforce guys were not impressed with their more convential approaches, they now change to a more
radicial ways of design fighters, and translate their experience gained by project J-20 into a fighter-bomber design.
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Radical design? It must be the younger generation at SAC taking over from the older generation. If it doesn't have canards, then it should probably look like a T-50. I wonder how much more radical it can be.... like Anjian (Dark Sword) perhaps.
 
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cloyce said:
Yeah, and I bet CAC is employing some of those fans to selectively release pre-controlled photos.
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At Key forum there were photos of the people lining the roads around the facility. You could see not only cell-cameras but real ones (SLR). There are probably millions of photos out there. We are seeing only the ones that have been allowed by forum moderators, and you are right, it is a very tantalizing progression from grainy and tiny to larger and clearer. It is all aimed at the public, of course, but I think even more, at foreign audiences, especially those who might get nervous and start to wonder where they are going to get the money to compete.
 
cloyce

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Red Moon said:
At Key forum there were photos of the people lining the roads around the facility. You could see not only cell-cameras but real ones (SLR). There are probably millions of photos out there. We are seeing only the ones that have been allowed by forum moderators, and you are right, it is a very tantalizing progression from grainy and tiny to larger and clearer.
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I agree with you.
Chinese officials are becoming smart nowadays.
Instead of keeping an opaque stance, they are using the web to releasing unofficial but very real info to the pubblic in a controlled little-by-little fashion.

I think by the New Year's day we will see very clear photos of this bird and maybe even some videos.

Red Moon said:
It is all aimed at the public, of course, but I think even more, at foreign audiences, especially those who might get nervous and start to wonder where they are going to get the money to compete.
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Yeah, I think here in Europe we might be in trouble.
 
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Martian

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J-20 not using 117S

Check the tail on both aircraft. J-20 is obviously using the Taihang engine, not Saturn.

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China's J-20 stealth fighter

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Russian PAK FA

And 117S right now is the most-advanced engine for the Russians. I don't think they would sell it to us!

Note: Thank you to "ChineseTiger1986" for the insight and post.
 
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Quickie said:
That's confusing because one would expect the DSI bump to already automatically "adjust" the airflow into the inlet according to the airflow speed. Unless there's such a thing as different unique DSI bumps that adjust the airflows differently with some more efficient than the others, that qualifies it to be called adjustable DSI?
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The bump is fixed, but parts of the lip of the intake are adjustable. That's what it means by adjustable DSI.
 
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Quickie said:
Yes, it's the tail section. The surprising thing is that the picture is showing a clear image of the tail section and a blurry image of the tarmac, meaning that someone (maybe in a moving truck) or the camera itself took that picture while he or the camera is going the same speed as the prototype aircraft. The picture can't be taken by someone on the ground!
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No, it just means whoever took the picture has a lot of skills. There are plenty of photos on airliners.net showing crystal clear picture of landing gears of airliners with blurry background.
 
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