J-20... The New Generation Fighter

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latenlazy

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Re: New Generation Fighter

The leaked Pic is highly likely to be the photo of the real thing.

The pic is leaked by a highly trusted source, the source is the first one who leak J-10b's photo.

And on 22/12 there are more than one eye witness of this fighter, some of them are highly-trusted ones, they also confirmed the side-view of the fighters (shape/color etc).

As for the shape of the aircraft, note the light can do wonders and due to the light there is some distortation about the fighter, the real thing looks "thicker" than it is looked like in this pic.

As for the real fighter, the shape of vectical tails looks like the one installed F-117, the fighter looks very flat from the lower end (like F-22), has DSI-like air-intake, arranged in a similiar way as in-between of F-35 and that latest French fighter Raflae or something (sorry, dont bother to find the spelling of it).

The front view of it looks somehow like a F-22, but the side view make it look a little bit like a F-23, of cause, the most important part, the top view is still remained unknown.

I would have expected a more trapezoidal tail.
 

Lion

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Hey, I don't see any effort by you to figure out whether it is real or not...

IMO, CONFIRMED PHOTOSHOP

First, the aircraft doesn't appear to be in primer.

Second, the vertical stabilizer has definitely been photoshopped, there is a blurry box surrounding the second half of the plane and as mentioned before, a definite swirl above the vertical stabilizer.

I brought it into PS and enhanced it so you can easily see that the photo was tampered with.

I saw nothing but trees! :D
 

Centrist

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I saw nothing but trees! :D

No, there is clearly some distortion under high magnification. However, I noticed that this is the case in several areas of the photo, not just near the vertical stabilizer, therefore it is more likely that it is just an illusion due to the poor quality of the photo.

That doesn't mean it is genuine, but there is nothing definitive suggesting that it is fake either.

To 70092: You said witnesses said that the rear of the plane is flat like the F-22, does this imply that the exhausts were flattened out also, like the F-22? (Implying 2D TVC instead of Russian 3D systems).
 

challenge

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last week, WMF blogger report 2 prototype were built no. 2001 and 2002.
but remember this is just prototype, production model may be different.
blogger also report that PLAAF are reluntant to sold J-10B to PAF.
 

dingyibvs

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No, there is clearly some distortion under high magnification. However, I noticed that this is the case in several areas of the photo, not just near the vertical stabilizer, therefore it is more likely that it is just an illusion due to the poor quality of the photo.

That doesn't mean it is genuine, but there is nothing definitive suggesting that it is fake either.

To 70092: You said witnesses said that the rear of the plane is flat like the F-22, does this imply that the exhausts were flattened out also, like the F-22? (Implying 2D TVC instead of Russian 3D systems).

Based on this video I saw of American pilots critiquing the Indian Su-30MKI after dogfighting with them, they don't appear to think much of TVC. Apparently you lose a lot of speed when using TVC, and the opponent can just pull up and wait for you to lose all your speed and then dive down to get you. I'm no pilot, so I have no idea how true that is.

last week, WMF blogger report 2 prototype were built no. 2001 and 2002.
but remember this is just prototype, production model may be different.
blogger also report that PLAAF are reluntant to sold J-10B to PAF.

The 2 prototype thing was reported quite a few weeks ago, you should know that. That blogger probably doesn't have any more inside info than any of us.
 

70092

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No, there is clearly some distortion under high magnification. However, I noticed that this is the case in several areas of the photo, not just near the vertical stabilizer, therefore it is more likely that it is just an illusion due to the poor quality of the photo.

That doesn't mean it is genuine, but there is nothing definitive suggesting that it is fake either.

To 70092: You said witnesses said that the rear of the plane is flat like the F-22, does this imply that the exhausts were flattened out also, like the F-22? (Implying 2D TVC instead of Russian 3D systems).

No, I was talking about the lower surface of the fighter, not the rear end.

Which means, the surface of the lower half of the fighter should be very flat, like F-22, unlike T-50 or Su-27 (due to the arrangement of the two engines).
 

challenge

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Re: New Generation Fighter

No, there is clearly some distortion under high magnification. However, I noticed that this is the case in several areas of the photo, not just near the vertical stabilizer, therefore it is more likely that it is just an illusion due to the poor quality of the photo.

That doesn't mean it is genuine, but there is nothing definitive suggesting that it is fake either.

To 70092: You said witnesses said that the rear of the plane is flat like the F-22, does this imply that the exhausts were flattened out also, like the F-22? (Implying 2D TVC instead of Russian 3D systems).

USAF pilot prefer 3-D AVEN TVC over 2-D ,in the end they opt for 2D for stealthness.
 

Centrist

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Re: New Generation Fighter

It looks narrow. And the colour is not yellow as with most test planes.

Well, that is strange, but the J-20 would be mostly composites, typically composites are coated with green primer, yellow is for aluminum.

Still look's dark though...
 

Deino

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Re: New Generation Fighter

Here's the same enlarged picture a bit "modified" by "overscan" (Secret.Projects Forum)

Deino
 

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