J-20... The New Generation Fighter II

The answer to question 5) is easy: 2017-2019. The general said so. It might be a year earlier, but surely not more than a year.
And sometimes weapon systems seem to take forever. Think F-35.

I can see so many F-22 v.s. T-50 v.s. J-20 threads in my head right now, it's almost nuts.

Anyways, I didn't bother reading the 22 pages here as I've read at least 50 on various other forums and they're all saying the same bullocksy things, so, I'm quite confident to theorize that the J-20 will have a similar design philosophy in that it follows a similar usage philosophy of being a compromise of Stealth and Kinetics, where it's job would be to Fly damn close to another 5th Generation fighter and use it's kinetic superiority to it's advantage.

Two questions, and yes, I do know that you're probably going to say, "It's too early in development, it'll all be guesses!", but can any learned man guesstimate the J-20's: 1. RCS (either Frontal or all aspect will be fine) to an X band radar and 2. it's IR signature?

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between 0.5 and 0.0005 m2, head on, cm wavelength. While perfectly honest, that assumption is basically worthless.

kickars said:

Well, the problem is that the whole WS-10G (150+ KN) theory is based on some Chinese military fans guess and productions. We can all agree those two engines should be some sort of WS-10s (it's the only 100+ KN production engine China has at the moment) .

Since this isn't a production plane, those could be any kinds of WS-10 as long as they are reliable enough. Or they may just even be some normal production WS-10s with certain modifications to suit this specific plane for all the tests need to be carried out.

IMO, they wouldn't put any prototype or untested engines any where near J-20 at this moment.

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I might be wrong but the rumors spread by the fan boys have been more accurate then the so called expert IMO

Totoro said:

between 0.5 and 0.0005 m2, head on, cm wavelength. While perfectly honest, that assumption is basically worthless.

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last year a blogger claim that J-10B has RCS of 0.50m.J-20 has to be even smaller .

Mashan said:

I might be wrong but the rumors spread by the fan boys have been more accurate then the so called expert IMO

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Correct.

There is no reason to invite the leaders over on the 7th to let them personally examine the engines if they weren't special in some manner.

From educated men on Stealth issues (I really mean just Carlo Kopp), the T-50 should have about -20 dbsm all aspect RCS, which equates to about .001 m2

The F-22 is known to have about a -40 dbsm all aspect RCS, which equates to about .00001 m2

I think we can all agree that the J-20 looks more like a F-22 than a T-50 and we can all agree that the J-20 is also relatively bigger than the F-22?

Before I say my estimate, I'll state where I am on the credential bar.

1-100, where 1 is someone who know this from playing Call of Duty and 100 is someone who designed the stuff, I'd be about a 20, I've talked to some people who are in the 70s (Engineers and learned men), so I'm not that far away from idiot.

Anyways, I'd guess that the J-20 would have a RCS similar to the of the F-35, about .001 m2 Frontal and .001 everywhere else.

Don't shoot me.

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