J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII


Oldschool

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Is this pic real? 10 newly made j20 with domestic engines.
 

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Lnk111229

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This incident roughly coincided with the CIA having its entire personnel network botched in China, with many agents executed. Look back 10 years later, it appeared that Beijing significantly outmaneuvered Washington during the 2010-2012 period.
Reading this spy incident on American news is somehow both get satisfied and frustrated same time. They report about their spy network in independence country like it a fact, obvious things like sky is blue and water is wet. White and country of God privilege maybe i guess. And they must insist added some bullshit things like Chinese work with C.I.A. because they can't stand against corruption of CCP but American work with CCP because they are brought with lot of money. Yeah world work like that for sure,lol
 

Josh Luo

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And they must insist added some bullshit things like Chinese work with C.I.A. because they can't stand against corruption of CCP but American work with CCP because they are brought with lot of money. Yeah world work like that for sure,lol
Actually there is indeed a group of Chinese civil servants and government-employed intellectuals (who I ran into multiples times in China) who are disenchanted with the CCP Party-State system simply because they themselves aren't as competent as their peers, or that they lacked the necessary connections when competing for some key promotions. After being disenchanted, they superficially call themselves Chinese liberals pursuing "American style freedom," and started telling others that they consider Washington the Beacon on the Hill for humanity. In other words, since they lost out within their own system, they started to have illusions of somehow gaining sympathy from competitors (American elites), like a female researcher from PKU telling me ignorant things that all Chinese girls should marry "liberal-minded and freedom-loving white conservative men" rather than "corrupt CCP officials and their supporters," albeit she already has a PhD, and she should not be making such uneducated arguments. Also, this kind of people tend to support the GOP and Trump. I can imagine her being the type people working for the CIA, but this kind of people are usually not very competent and likely lack the necessary mental strength to work for the CIA, so they get busted by the MSS easily. Ask folks like them to steal info related to J20 and other top military hardware? I don't think they might even make it through the PLA's 政审 (Political investigation, which is China's equivalent to U.S. Fed's security clearance process).
 

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Actually there is indeed a group of Chinese civil servants and government-employed intellectuals (who I ran into multiples times in China) who are disenchanted with the CCP Party-State system simply because they themselves aren't as competent as their peers, or that they lacked the necessary connections when competing for some key promotions. After being disenchanted, they superficially call themselves Chinese liberals pursuing "American style freedom," and started telling others that they consider Washington the Beacon on the Hill for humanity. In other words, since they lost out within their own system, they started to have illusions of somehow gaining sympathy from competitors (American elites), like a female researcher from PKU telling me ignorant things that all Chinese girls should marry "liberal-minded and freedom-loving white conservative men" rather than "corrupt CCP officials and their supporters," albeit she already has a PhD, and she should not be making such uneducated arguments. Also, this kind of people tend to support the GOP and Trump. I can imagine her being the type people working for the CIA, but this kind of people are usually not very competent and likely lack the necessary mental strength to work for the CIA, so they get busted by the MSS easily. Ask folks like them to steal info related to J20 and other top military hardware? I don't think they might even make it through the PLA's 政审 (Political investigation, which is China's equivalent to U.S. Fed's security clearance process).

Grass is always greener on the other side.
 

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