J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread V

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Ultra

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Well at the risk of being simplistic the J-20 is a very ambitious project for Chengdu, and much is riding on its success and eventual adoption, so I would suggest that as an indigenous Chinese aircraft it enjoys unprecedented political support. It seems to be moving "forward" very nicely at a very pragmatic and helpful pace and I expect to see it go LRIP very soon.

Compared to the F-35 it is of necessity going to be progressing at a slower rate as it is not as far along in its development, the F-35 is a driven project, with LOTS of MONEY and Political support, even more so than the J-20. There is a much stronger market in the general public for the F-35, as there are a great many more military enthusiasts in the general public, who have a more mature understanding of "stealth"

On the opposing hand we have the PAK-FA or T-50, again a very fine and ambitious aircraft for Sukhoi, it seems that funding is problematic for the T-50, and that several serious development snags have been impeding the forward progress as well, one of reasons (maybe the only reason?) that the Russians are now opening up this project and inviting the Indians onboard for a much more important role, and in fact are willing to taylor a version of this aircraft to the specific Indian need?

So to cap it off, the J-20 seems to enjoy broad political and popular support, as well as the engineering and finances to keep it moving forward. It seems to be meeting all the developmental milestones and performance objectives, so all in all I would say the Chinese are very tickled with their overall progress on the J-20.

I would conclude by adding that president Xi seems to have pushed this ahead of the indigenous carrier at the moment, but we shall see??

While J-20 program "seems" to enjoy top level support from the Chinese leadership (we don't really know for sure, for example the first J-20 "reveal" back in 2011
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didn't even know when asked by the visiting US Defence Secretary Robert Gates), Chinese aviation industry overall is relatively small. I remember there was an article I read few years ago that says AVIC is still the smallest compare to other advanced countries. It has the manpower of only 1/3 to 1/4 (I think less than 5000? IIRC) of the american military aviation contractors.
 

JayBird

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While J-20 program "seems" to enjoy top level support from the Chinese leadership (we don't really know for sure, for example the first J-20 "reveal" back in 2011
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didn't even know when asked by the visiting US Defence Secretary Robert Gates), Chinese aviation industry overall is relatively small. I remember there was an article I read few years ago that says AVIC is still the smallest compare to other advanced countries. It has the manpower of only 1/3 to 1/4 (I think less than 5000? IIRC) of the american military aviation contractors.
C'mon, you really believe Hu Jintao doesn't know about the J-20 back in 2011? o_O If that's the case I have a bridge called Golden Gate to sell you for a nice discount price as a fellow SDF member.;)
 

Blackstone

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And then the Chinese Gestapo will pay him a visit and we'll never hear from the dude again. Sort of like what happened to the guy that blocked a long line of tanks near Voldemort Square.
 

jkliz

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And then the Chinese Gestapo will pay him a visit and we'll never hear from the dude again. Sort of like what happened to the guy that blocked a long line of tanks near Voldemort Square.
Eh...attract too much attention. Not saying the MSS guys aren't capable but getting rid of anyone that comes into contact with the footage will leave a long trail of bodies, might get international attention, and might cause the videos to go viral online.
 

Bltizo

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Some pictures of new PL-10 on J-20
Not quite.
The first picture depicts a german IRIS-T missile. It clearly isn't even Chinese given the english writing around the seeker.
The second picture is a terrible adaptation of an ausairpower drawing of high offboresight missiles. It's obvious it isn't chinese in origin given the target is meant to be a PLA fighter.
The third and fourth pictures are legitimate photos of J-20 and J-16 carrying PL-10 missiles or PL-10 missile dummies.
the last picture is a CGI of PL-10, but not official.

This is the clearest image we have so far of PL-10, and it is a few years old already.
 
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