J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread V

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Air Force Brat

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“Nailed it!" (me tips hat to Air Force Brat)

Cannot agree more on the importance of creating reputable consumer brands.

Thank you for the confidence SanWenYu, the J-20 is a very finely crafted, world class aeroplane, people tend to think that China is in stasis, but we see lots of effort to produce a very high quality aircraft here.

I think they have done a very fine job, given the acknowledged challenges by Dr. Song, whom I greatly admire!

Acknowledging your hat-tip sir, I am bowing to return the respect! Blessings to you in the New Year!
 

latenlazy

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It's a matter of the quality of finish. Simply by looking at the picture, you can see that the rivets seem irregular; they're not perfectly identical to each other, suggesting that they're not perfectly flush. On the other hand, quite possibly, the J-20 may pursue a dual RAM strategy where maintenance-intensive RAM paint is only applied before combat missions, and this obscures the rivets.
Wanna point out where? I'm not seeing it...
 

Air Force Brat

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I want my "vents" back, actually that's no problem, you simply increase the size of the verts to compensate. Those vents are there for ONE REASON, and that is for post stall directional control and recovery, in fact the F-35 manages quite well without them!

The issue of the vents are that they may be more important on the J-20's aft mounted delta main wing? as opposed to the mid wing design of the F-22/F-35???
 

Air Force Brat

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It does look a little "cleaner" without the vents?? but if I had to fly it, I'm not sure I wouldn't want to keep them, if I were making some "hard pulls" down in the low end, they are nice insurance and give your aircraft a forward pitching moment built in.

Some of the early century fighters would get into a "stalled out" condition, with an aft CG from which there was NO RECOVERY??? that's something you will not have to worry about as long as those ventral fins are down there in back, actively "pitching the aircraft" nose down when you are in that very low speed or even post stall mode!

They are not even noticeable in normal flight regimes, and do give it tremendous yaw stability?? if you have ever shot an arrow with those little bitty vanes, the arrow will oscillate for a much longer period than if you have those nice large Feather's. Which quickly "damp out" those energy robbing oscillations, in archery you get much better shaft penetration, because you retain more energy.

In aviation, you get an aircraft that recovers quicker, and that you don't have to "sweat" when you get slow, Dr. Song and team, incorporated those vents into the J-20 for a reason??
 
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