J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread V
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A nice photo of J20..(serial # 2015)
is it real or is it Memorex?? odd to see all the bays open, gear down, and in full burner, if that's real, it is a PHOTO-OP, which goes against what all our Chinese guys are suggesting when we complain about no recent pix.
Here again, just like PAK-FA, my question is where is 2102, seems no one is to good at sleuthing these days, lots of questions, and no one even has a plausible suggestion??
SteelBird
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Hey boss, you can't expect that to be real. Look at the lower right corner, there is a "@高山 CG". You might not be able to read Chinese but the "CG" would tell you everything.
I didn't see that, but in the real world, things would start shakin and vibratin real soon with that girl in full burner, about 250-300 knots it would shake you out of there! LOL
kwaigonegin
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I think the question is how many internal launch rails and the answer is two pairs. Size of missiles varies.. assuming future variants of AMRAAMS they manage to somewhat minituarized it, it still won't be able to fit 6 due to the rails and not internal volume space
Rails (ejectors) are hung off hardpoints, which can be numerous, for different purposes. Only some may be used at once, but their numbers and position give flexibility. Say a single amraam is carried and one bomb, in which case the ejector for the bomb is hung of a different hardpoint from any of the amraam destined hardpoints.
Unless the J-20 designers were forward thinking and designed the hardware that the rails clamp onto to be variably adjustable in a lateral fashion, so that future rails could be slid over to make room for a third rail in each half of the weapons bay.
Undoubetely this matter of AAM weapons load is very important coz especialy only 50 % of AAM reach her target an average... and the F-22 sure get 8 whose 6 LR.
For her rivals :
T-50 seems really now 4 LR + 2 SR different weapons bays in tandem
J-20 more difficult ! same arrangement as F-22 but as Russians Chinese missiles are more big less compact especialy more wide ( for host inside weap bays the main problem is the diameter ) then seems just for 6 PL-10 thinking right now 4.
For PL-12 as point Totoro ... we going again more for 4.
But F-22 don't get IRST others yes.
In this case F-22 get an advantage. And AIM-120D get a better range as PL-12 , want equal with an AA-13.
One simple ex : for LR AAM load: with a ratio of 50 % for kill better fired 2 AAM simult. so F-22 is aable to fired 3 salvos others 2.
And right now J-20 don' t have a gun obsolete say some ? but can be useful also vs ground targets less dangerous for troops around and cheaper.
NB : F-35 : 4 LR internaly with Block 5 for about 2023/24 about 6
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At this stage, we are still in flight test, and to be honest the J-20 has been designed to be more about "stealth" and less about carrying a bunch of "odd" weapons just to be classified "multi-role"? Stealth aircraft of necessity have smaller bays than many of us would like, and it may be true the J-20 bays are "deeper".
In this case the airframe has been designed to have a very low RCS. That continues to drive this test program, the result is a smaller weapons bay, likely removable hard points that depart the aircraft after weapons deployment.
I would be more concerned at this stage about the actual performance of the aircraft, and how it will function operationally, the side mounted weapons bays mirror the F-22, and the J-20s main weapons bay is very similar in size, so it will no doubt be functionally adequate, without taking away space from critical aircraft systems.
The weapons bay is "right sized" to the J-20 airframe, and not vica-versa, everything has to function as a whole, and then it has to "perform" up to a very high level, the engineers know what they are doing!
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