J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)

[vesicles]

One thing I hate about Chinese military movies is that they use way too much computer graphics. To my knowledge, a lot of these movies are partly produced by the military. So why not just use real planes for the movie? I mean, Top Gun and Iron Eagle both were almost filed completely with real planes.

On top of that, the CG looks really fake, making the whole movie look cheap. It actually hurts my head watching this movie.

I think this was intended to be a cheap movie as the main characters were played by second-line TV stars (not even popular TV stars). Not one character in the movie was actually played by movie actors (Note I'm not even saying movie "stars").

 

[Quickie]

For some reason I would prefer unknown actors, with good acting skills of course, for some type of movies like science fiction and war theme movies.

 

[CottageLV]

Come on, to make a good movie you have to put in decent cash. The Top Gun crew paid, I think it was $25000 to just make the carrier turn around to get a shot of the sunset. It was such a desperate move that the director paid it out of his own pocket, since there was no time to discuss about it with the producers. He literally asked the naval staff and they gave a price, he paid instantly.

Movies are just like any other things in life, if you don't pay enough cash for it, it will suck. This movie shows this through and through, shitty actors, bad CG graphics, no real flying jets, shitty storyline, etc.

You have to have the spirit like the director from Top Gun. Saving money is good, but not in everything. Seriously, think of a movie that was cheap and remembered forever. I don't think there are any, except very few, that could be counted without need of a second hand.

 

[Red___Sword]

Come on, to make a good movie you have to put in decent cash. The Top Gun crew paid, I think it was $25000 to just make the carrier turn around to get a shot of the sunset. It was such a desperate move that the director paid it out of his own pocket, since there was no time to discuss about it with the producers. He literally asked the naval staff and they gave a price, he paid instantly.

Yes, you can wait that to happen, when China's per-capital GDP is on par with US's 1986 level. (and PLA's service unit is that "flexible" as US when they took the money directly from the Director's pocket, to pull of some stunt)

Movies are just like any other things in life, if you don't pay enough cash for it, it will suck. This movie shows this through and through, shitty actors, bad CG graphics, no real flying jets, shitty storyline, etc.

You have to have the spirit like the director from Top Gun. Saving money is good, but not in everything. Seriously, think of a movie that was cheap and remembered forever. I don't think there are any, except very few, that could be counted without need of a second hand.

All the non-Top-Gun production around the world just got shot.

Seriously, Let's get back to topic.

 

[plawolf]

Actually, Hollywood war films only look good because the US military has a very deliberate PR policy of trading access to military equipment and personnel for favorable coverage. And it is not just stopping at the cinema.

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There are plenty of western made war films that look absolute trash because they had no military backing. As such, it is little wonder that a Chinese film with zero military backing would look rubbish.

 

[CottageLV]

Actually, Hollywood war films only look good because the US military has a very deliberate PR policy of trading access to military equipment and personnel for favorable coverage. And it is not just stopping at the cinema.

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There are plenty of western made war films that look absolute trash because they had no military backing. As such, it is little wonder that a Chinese film with zero military backing would look rubbish.

You kidding me? This one had the full backing of the PLAAF and still looks like shit. These days Chinese films like to brag how big their budgets are, but WTF, where did all the budget went for this movie? Fly some f%T^Ycking jets!

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Yes, you can wait that to happen, when China's per-capital GDP is on par with US's 1986 level. (and PLA's service unit is that "flexible" as US when they took the money directly from the Director's pocket, to pull of some stunt)




All the non-Top-Gun production around the world just got shot.

Seriously, Let's get back to topic.

He wrote a cheque to the navy, it was a personal cheque out of his own banking account. And yes, they did request money.

During filming, the director Tony Scott wanted to shoot aircraft landing and taking off, back-lit by the sun. During one particular filming sequence, the ship's commanding officer changed the ship's course, thus changing the light. When Scott asked if they could continue on their previous course and speed, he was informed by the commander that it cost $25,000 to turn the ship, and to continue on course. Scott wrote the carrier's captain a $25,000 check so that the ship could be turned and he could continue shooting for another five minutes.

this was from wikipedia, quoted from the actual interview of the producers and directors, part of the collector edition DVD

 

[plawolf]

You kidding me? This one had the full backing of the PLAAF and still looks like shit. These days Chinese films like to brag how big their budgets are, but WTF, where did all the budget went for this movie? Fly some f%T^Ycking jets!

Nonsense. If it had official military backing, then there would have been 'some f%T^Ycking jets' flying in it wouldn't there?

 

[kwaigonegin]

Nonsense. If it had official military backing, then there would have been 'some f%T^Ycking jets' flying in it wouldn't there?

c'mon guys cut them some slack! For what it's worth is commendable for them to produce even something like that. Keep in mind that Hollywood is light years ahead of any other country's local film industry especially when it comes to action/military/sci-fi movies so to compare them with Hollywood is a bit unfair.

Drama, chick flicks etc sure where the main focus is more on the actual human acting BUT anything that is machine/CGI intensive no one can match Hollywood's expertise. They have been doing movies for over 100 years and are pioneers in movie making magic especially action movies. Even Japanese action movies are lame compare to Hollywood's an they are decades ahead of Chinese movie industry. HK film industry which is very well established BUT they are primarily focus on human action sequences/car chases/kung fu etc but far from CGI or machination experts.

 

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unknown cockpit

 

[Deino]

unknown cockpit

But if it is unknown ... why do You post it in the J-10 tread ???